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Maybe you inspire as long you don’t marry -;

CR

On Fri, Jan 3, 2020 at 12:15 PM David Boyd <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> For someone able to inspire 'Burnt Norton', Emily was hardly toxic to
> Eliot's poetic creativity as he seemed to be trying to allege?
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> On Fri, 3 Jan 2020 at 16:37, Ken Armstrong <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
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>> Hello Pete,
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>> I haven't been following the Hale and letters threads as closely as maybe
>> I should have, having just started this morning to look at some of the
>> pages for which CR and Rickard have provided links. And I'm not sure I've
>> fully comprehended your definition of sex as seen from a certain Democratic
>> angle, or which Eliot statement you refer to, but am wondering if it
>> comports with the Guardian Jan. 2 quote from Hale: “We were congenial in so
>> many of our interests, our reactions, and emotional response to each
>> others’ needs – the happiness, the quiet deep bonds between us and our
>> lives, very rich ... And the more because we kept the relationship on an
>> honourable, to be respected, plane.” That last does sound as if it might
>> have morphed into the beginning of "Burnt Norton."
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>> Thanks,
>> Ken A
>> On 1/3/2020 12:17 AM, Peter Dillane wrote:
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>> Hi CR
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>> Just reading the Eliot statement.
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>> What do men mean when they tell you “I did not have sex with that woman”.
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>> At least when Billy Clinton did this  it was a lie or a pretty analytic
>> way of talking. A bit like the Hollywood code of one foot on the floor.
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>> Clinton was working from self interest at least.  But old TSE  seems to
>> have thought it a justification . I cant bring myself to consider he had
>> the same punctilious exclusive oscillatory definition of sex as a Democrat.
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>> I’m still a bit shaken by his endorsement of his second wife as a goody
>> because she really loved him. My wife would have said “I’m glad its about
>> you”
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>> Pete
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>> *From: *Chanan Mittal <[log in to unmask]>
>> *Sent: *Friday, 3 January 2020 3:08 PM
>> *To: *[log in to unmask]
>> *Subject: *Re: TS Eliot’s hidden love letters reveal intense,
>> heartbreaking affair | The Guardian
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>> An abstraction
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>> “Perhaps I could not have been the companion in marriage he hoped ...
>> Perhaps the vision saved both of us from great unhappiness – I cannot ever
>> know.”
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>> CR
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>> On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 10:43 PM Chanan Mittal <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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>> Edward Helmore from Princeton
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>> The Guardian
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>> 2 Jan 2020, 14.50 EST
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>> https://www.theguardian.com/books/2020/jan/02/ts-eliot-hidden-love-letters-reveal-intense-heartbreaking-affair-emily-hale
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>> CR
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