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https://tseliot.com/preoccupations/religion

CR

On Sat, Nov 30, 2019 at 12:21 PM Chanan Mittal <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Apropos of Tim’s question about Eliot agreeing with Aldington on Christ,
> well, to Eliot doubt and belief were two aspects of the same coin, and he
> would as well subscribe to fiction as to fact, if fiction had a touch of
> poetic truth to it.
>
> Regards,
>  CR
>
> On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 9:11 AM Chanan Mittal <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> And an open lament too:
>>
>> After the torchlight red on sweaty faces
>> After the frosty silence in the gardens
>> After the agony in stony places
>> The shouting and the crying
>> Prison and palace and reverberation
>> Of thunder of spring over distant mountains
>> He who was living is now dead
>> We who were living are now dying
>> With a little patience
>>
>> CR
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 7:56 AM Chanan Mittal <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>>> A metaphoric lament, if you like.
>>>
>>>                            If there were water
>>>    And no rock
>>>    If there were rock
>>>    And also water
>>>    And water
>>>    A spring
>>>    A pool among the rock
>>>    If there were the sound of water only
>>>    Not the cicada
>>>    And dry grass singing
>>>    But sound of water over a rock
>>>    Where the hermit-thrush sings in the pine trees
>>>    Drip drop drip drop drop drop drop
>>>    But there is no water
>>>
>>> CR
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 25, 2019 at 10:35 PM Chanan Mittal <[log in to unmask]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> ‘The Waste Land’ also laments Christ’s absence.
>>>>
>>>> “I do not find / The Hanged Man.”
>>>>
>>>> “The Hanged Man, a member of the traditional pack, fits my purpose in
>>>> two ways: because he is associated in my mind with the Hanged God of
>>>> Frazer, and because I associate him with the hooded figure in the passage
>>>> of the disciples to Emmaus in Part V.” - Eliot’s Notes
>>>>
>>>> CR
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Nov 25, 2019 at 11:12 AM Materer, Timothy J. <
>>>> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> As soon as I sent my recent post, I recalled:
>>>>>
>>>>> Who is the third who walks always beside you?
>>>>> When I count, there are only you and I together
>>>>> But when I look ahead up the white road
>>>>> There is always another one walking beside you
>>>>> Gliding wrapt in a brown mantle, hooded
>>>>> I do not know whether a man or a woman
>>>>> —But who is that on the other side of you?
>>>>>
>>>>> and, in Mr Eliot’s Sunday Morning Service
>>>>>
>>>>> But through the water pale and thin
>>>>> Still shine the unoffending feet
>>>>> And there above the painter set
>>>>> The Father and the Paraclete.
>>>>>
>>>>> However, not inconsistent from a man who agrees with Aldington about
>>>>> Christ.
>>>>
>>>>