Dear Gene,

I'm sure it does not matter at all. I was merely noting that a great many rather doubtful attempts were being made to explain the poem, without either knowing much OR recognizing what you point to.
Nancy

On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 7:10 PM, [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Does it matter if/what read?  And isn't all this secondary talk secondary to the rhythm and the enticement to think of Eliot's lines.  Like the Middle Ages, few may have grasped what was said, but the sensation is there.  And in this age of the cellphone-addled, and the incoherent agitated leadership, is it not most pleasing to find words causing some to ponder?  Besides, who knows which volumes lurk in the boardrooms of banks, or on the Gulfstreams of the captains of industry?

Sent from the streets of New York

On Aug 27, 2018, at 11:47 AM, Nancy Gish <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

P. S. Why do I rather doubt that Elon Musk has read the Dante and/or Tennyson poems and the long section of the poem in the Facsimile or the letters between Eliot and Pound--and meant to invoke them?

On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 11:43 AM, Nancy Gish <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
This is the first commentary I saw.  The remarks are all sort of speculative and subjective. But it is interesting that it has made so much discussion. Nancy


On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 10:50 AM, Rick Parker <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
On Sat, 25 Aug 2018 22:44:37 -0400, Chanan Mittal <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

>Out of Time
>By Kevin D. Williamson
>NATIONAL REVIEW
>August 23, 2018
>https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/08/elon-musk-seeks-solace-in-ts-eliot-poetry/

Sorry CR I have not yet read the article. My desktop system is desperately in need of an upgrade as my browser is incapable of displaying more and more webpages and I can't get a new browser without upgrading the OS and [long story omitted.]

I had submitted a different Musk/Phelbas webpage a few days ago but it didn't take because due to some glitch I got unsubscribed from the TSE list and early attempts to rectify the problem were unsuccessful. I should be fine now. And here, from a notes log I entered it into, is what I tried to send:


Added: Wed Aug 22 12:09:12 EDT 2018
Date: 20180822120912

First a bit of background. Iain Banks wrote fiction. When he wrote science fiction the books bore the name Iain M. Banks instead. Iain M. Banks wrote a series of science fiction books, the Culture series, about an interstellar civilization. The first book in the series was titled "Consider Phlebas" and a later one "Look to Windward" where the names obviously refer to Part 4 of Eliot's "The Waste Land." Elon Musk of Tesla, SpaceX and the Boring Project is a fan of Banks; he named two of his spacecraft after ships in the Culture series. Yesterday (8/21) Musk tweeted "Read Eliot’s notes on The Waste Land https://t.co/2SSsHiJmiO pic.twitter.com/uToAi4kBi1"

Now there are a number of pages out on the web trying to explain what he means. One on the Breitbart website I consider to be worth your time to read (although the publisher and page title might put you off.)

https://www.breitbart.com/economics/2018/08/21/deathbywater/
Understanding Elon Musk’s Tweet Quoting T.S. Eliot’s ‘Death by Water’
Elon Musk returned to Twitter Tuesday with a command and poetry.
By John Carney
21 Aug 2018

Regards,
   Rick Parker