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Dear Gene,

I'm sure it does not matter at all. I was merely noting that a great many
rather doubtful attempts were being made to explain the poem, without
either knowing much OR recognizing what you point to.
Nancy

On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 7:10 PM, [log in to unmask] <
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> Does it matter if/what read?  And isn't all this secondary talk secondary
> to the rhythm and the enticement to think of Eliot's lines.  Like the
> Middle Ages, few may have grasped what was said, but the sensation is
> there.  And in this age of the cellphone-addled, and the incoherent
> agitated leadership, is it not most pleasing to find words causing some to
> ponder?  Besides, who knows which volumes lurk in the boardrooms of banks,
> or on the Gulfstreams of the captains of industry?
>
> Sent from the streets of New York
>
> On Aug 27, 2018, at 11:47 AM, Nancy Gish <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> P. S. Why do I rather doubt that Elon Musk has read the Dante and/or
> Tennyson poems and the long section of the poem in the Facsimile or the
> letters between Eliot and Pound--and meant to invoke them?
>
> On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 11:43 AM, Nancy Gish <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> This is the first commentary I saw.  The remarks are all sort of
>> speculative and subjective. But it is interesting that it has made so much
>> discussion. Nancy
>>
>>
>>  https://slate.com/business/2018/08/elon-musk-tweets-t-s-eli
>> ots-the-waste-land-but-why.html
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 10:50 AM, Rick Parker <[log in to unmask]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 25 Aug 2018 22:44:37 -0400, Chanan Mittal <[log in to unmask]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> >Out of Time
>>> >By Kevin D. Williamson
>>> >NATIONAL REVIEW
>>> >August 23, 2018
>>> >https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/08/elon-musk-seeks-sola
>>> ce-in-ts-eliot-poetry/
>>>
>>> Sorry CR I have not yet read the article. My desktop system is
>>> desperately in need of an upgrade as my browser is incapable of displaying
>>> more and more webpages and I can't get a new browser without upgrading the
>>> OS and [long story omitted.]
>>>
>>> I had submitted a different Musk/Phelbas webpage a few days ago but it
>>> didn't take because due to some glitch I got unsubscribed from the TSE list
>>> and early attempts to rectify the problem were unsuccessful. I should be
>>> fine now. And here, from a notes log I entered it into, is what I tried to
>>> send:
>>>
>>>
>>> Added: Wed Aug 22 12:09:12 EDT 2018
>>> Date: 20180822120912
>>>
>>> First a bit of background. Iain Banks wrote fiction. When he wrote
>>> science fiction the books bore the name Iain M. Banks instead. Iain M.
>>> Banks wrote a series of science fiction books, the Culture series, about an
>>> interstellar civilization. The first book in the series was titled
>>> "Consider Phlebas" and a later one "Look to Windward" where the names
>>> obviously refer to Part 4 of Eliot's "The Waste Land." Elon Musk of Tesla,
>>> SpaceX and the Boring Project is a fan of Banks; he named two of his
>>> spacecraft after ships in the Culture series. Yesterday (8/21) Musk tweeted
>>> "Read Eliot’s notes on The Waste Land https://t.co/2SSsHiJmiO
>>> pic.twitter.com/uToAi4kBi1"
>>>
>>> Now there are a number of pages out on the web trying to explain what he
>>> means. One on the Breitbart website I consider to be worth your time to
>>> read (although the publisher and page title might put you off.)
>>>
>>> https://www.breitbart.com/economics/2018/08/21/deathbywater/
>>> Understanding Elon Musk’s Tweet Quoting T.S. Eliot’s ‘Death by Water’
>>> Elon Musk returned to Twitter Tuesday with a command and poetry.
>>> By John Carney
>>> 21 Aug 2018
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>    Rick Parker
>>>
>>
>>
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