Perhaps any exploring might begin with a serious reading of feminist theory, history, and analysis.

To apply a philosophical concept casually and inaccurately simply creates confusion.

I presume one would read a bit of Plato before discussing "Platonic" or a few Existentialists before attributing that view to just anyone.

On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 10:58 PM, Chanan Mittal <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Well, an aspect that still needs to be explored.


On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 10:28 PM Nancy Gish <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
It would be difficult to think of a less applicable word for Eliot than "feminist." Feminism is a philosophical position, grounded in major theoretical work going back at least to Mary Wollstonecraft: it is not a simplistic notion of very occasional sympathy (intermixed with one of the most misogynist images in all of literature in the Fresca of the Facsimile "Fire Sermon" or the tendency to dismiss women writers with the exception of Marianne Moore and Djuna Barnes for Nightwood or a poem about strangling a woman).

Putting aside even Wollstonecraft and DeBeauvoir and Rich and the courageous women of the Suffrage movement, since The Feminist Mystique, at least, scholars throughout the world have studied the meaning and applications of feminism--the history and analysis is massive now.

None of that is simply an intermittent ability to show potential empathy. And to claim the word, one does need to know what it is.

On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 1:08 PM, Chanan Mittal <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Was just thinking of the way Eliot empathizes with the plight of Lil apropos of her husband’s treatment of her, as well as Eliot’s depiction of the agony and travail of the rich lady in the opening section of A Game of Chess. In the Prufrock volume too there’re moving images of women from the low class whose life is no better than “sparrows in the gutters.” Does make a case for Eliot as a feminist. 


On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 11:59 AM Chanan Mittal <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

Gemma Cairney on Gender and T.S. Eliot’s ‘The Waste Land’

A welcome comment. Wish there was some elaboration vis-a-vis The Waste Land.