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"is it wrong?" Yes.

"The perfect life," as I noted, is a common concept in Christian mysticism.
Eliot read Evelyn Underhill early and also read many mystics. All this
takes is a little reading in what he read.

I'm sure you do find it wrong.
Nancy

On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 10:19 PM, Ken Armstrong <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:

> On 7/13/2016 6:15 PM, Nancy Gish wrote:
>
>> Eliot never claimed the he, himself, achieved it--only that he admired it.
>>
>
>      "It" here is "perfection"? It seems to be Gordon who is the serious
> user of the words "perfect" and "imperfect."  My impression is that they
> designate her own judgement on Eliot. Is that wrong? I'm frankly surprised
> my inquiry caused such a stir. Does one need vindication for asking a
> question? Wouldn't all like to know how or whether "perfect" and
> "imperfect" in their various forms are used in Eliot's writing? Seems a
> natural enough question when the word is being leaned on so heavily by a
> well known critic.
>
> Reread Gordon.  And his poems are not theological pronouncements anyway.
>> Quoting them is not a refutation or a lifetime of biographical study.
>>
>
>      Though writing them very well might be. And when you say his poems
> are not theological pronouncements, I presume you mean you don't read them
> that way. Perhaps what's needed is a good reading by someone who
> does,culminating, especially, with 4Q. As always, I find it odd that the
> poetry seems to register as so much less constitutive of itself than the
> biography, though no one would be bothering whatsoever with any biography
> were not the poems the distinctive, remarkable creations that they are.
> Very odd. I would think in principle, at least, that it would not be so
> difficult to agree on that point.
>
> Ken A
>