I'm glad you agree. If E. was reading John of the Cross,  it's hard to believe he wasn't reading the teacher of John. As well as writing 4 such books,  she also founded something like 17 monasteries,  & commissioned John to do the same for men. He managed to found 5.
Keep in mind these folks only had their thongs to walk with. That's how they travelled.

On 3 Oct 2015 1:48 pm, Ken Armstrong <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

Wow, yes, of course, brilliant. Thanks for throwing some light on my own undone homework. Really wonderful.


On October 3, 2015 2:29:15 PM EDT, P <xanadu01@TELUS.NET> wrote:
Try The Way of Perfection, chapter 28:

"Let us not imagine we have nothing in our interior. God grant that women only be the persons guilty of this negligence; for if we remember that we have within us such a guest, I think it is impossible we should be so fond of the things of this world, because we should see how base they are, in comparison with those treasures which we possess within us. What more does a brute beast do, which, on beholding something pleasing to the sight, satisfies its hunger by seizing upon it? Now, should there not be some difference between them and us?

Some persons will, perhaps, laugh at me, and say, "All this is very evident," and they may have reason for saying so; but for some time it was obscure to me. I knew well that I had a soul; but I understood not the dignity of this soul, nor knew who lodged within it, because my eyes being blinded by the vanities of this life, I was prevented from seeing Him. Meth inks, had I then known, as I do at present, that in this little palace of my soul so great a King is lodged, I would not have left him alone so often, but sometimes at least I should have stayed with Him, and have been more careful to prepare a clean lodging for Him."


On 3 Oct 2015 7:38 am, Ken Armstrong <kennenathens@FRONTIER.COM> wrote:

I thought Vendler's review was a pretty mixed bag though I'd agree with
her on one score, that no other poet could have mustered the energy that
Eliot did in his poetry and job and editorship combined to advance his
perspective. She specifies American poet; I'm not sure why.

In any case while poking around the web I found a page that is almost
Rickard-like in its presentation of The Hollow Men:

http://www.aduni.org/~heather/occs/honors/Poem.htm     It is apparently
a university student's project and might come in handy though I don't
see any reference in it or, so far, in other web sources to Theresa of
Avila. I haven't looked at the standard guides yet.


On 10/2/2015 12:36 PM, P wrote:
Sounds like she didn't do her home work.
Eliot did.

So does this Vendler mention Theresa of Avila who had some things to say about hollow men?


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