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It seems every community has a crotchety neighbor who yells at passersby.  Isn't sharing information and stories about birds what birders do, regardless of where the birds happen to be?    

Please, Deepa, continue to post on the list about birds in India. 


Sherry McCowan
Saint Louis, Missouri

On Mar 9, 2014, at 3:13 PM, Jo Ann Eldridge wrote:

Deepa, It's been a joy to read your posts and count you among birding friends, even though I live across the state from St. Louis and didn't have the privilege of meeting you. It's been flattering, I felt like, to have input from a visitor from so far away who not only appreciated the Missouri birds, but shared birds from your country. Thank you, please continue.
 
Jo Ann Eldridge, Kearney, Clay Co.
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Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 12:46 PM
Subject: Re: Sorry to say that some Missouri birders can be very rude!

Deepa,

Please keep me in the loop on the birds in India, or keep posting to this list, I enjoy reading about the birds and birding over there and it helps motivate me to get there one day to see some of what you write about.  I suspect that the vast majority of those on the list appreciate your posts.

Dave

 
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David Starrett
Cape Girardeau, MO
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On Sun, Mar 9, 2014 at 8:23 AM, Edge Wade <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Deepa,

I am appalled and ashamed.  There is no excuse for this deplorable behavior.  It is arrogant provincialism (perhaps fueled by alcohol?).  Please accept my apologies for these crass, oafish, ignorance-based messages from members of the Missouri birding community.  I can only state firmly that their attitude and certainly their behavior is not representative of this community at large.

The purpose of the Missouri listserv has, from its origin and in the agreement with the carrier (the University of Missouri), included sharing information about bird sightings in Missouri AND bird-related information OF INTEREST TO Missourians. There are individuals who believe that the listserv should be used only to report bird sightings, and those sightings should be within Missouri or, at most, in contiguous areas of bordering states.  That very narrow-minded perspective can be maintained by those individuals hitting the delete key.

I've been criticized (probably by the same people who sent the crude messages to you) for reporting sightings from Texas.  They complained on the list so all could read their messages.  The responses from far more people requesting that I continue because they were learning about Texas birding caused me to continue to write and to make available a set of materials I developed to make birding in the Rio Grande Valley enjoyable and productive for first-timers.

Deepa, please do continue to send me (and the many other interested people) your erudite, instructive and often amusing accounts of birding and birding information from India.  For those of us who long to see beyond Missouri's beautiful rivers, prairies, forests and hills, and who seek knowledge of birds we may never be able to enjoy in person, your messages are rays of sunshine onto brilliant feathered wonders.

Thank you, Deepa, for your informative posts, your wit, and, I beg, your tolerance of the intolerant ignoramuses among us.

I have taken the liberty of sharing your email to me and this, my response, with the listserv on the premise that all should be aware of the lack of decorum and simple decency of some of our members.

And, specifically to those who sent the messages, Shame on you!

Edge Wade
Columbia, MO


On Mar 8, 2014, at 7:34 PM, Deepa Mohan wrote:

Here's part of an email from one of them:

"Please don't clog the Missouri Birding List with anymore of your drivel. 
"

While not happy with the tone of the email, I agree that not everyone may enjoy India-based posts. So I'll be sending mail only to you and anyone else I feel may be interested, especially those who have sent more appreciative mails.

But I must say, I expected the decencies of debate on this list! Oh well, this happens everywhere, I guess.

Cheers, Deepa.



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