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FYI for ST. LOUIS AREA BIRDERS (ILLINOIS) Carlyle Lake, Clinton co, ILLINOIS access closed for gov't shut-down. Last article said that Hazlet SP is still accessible because it is state run. No mention of South Shores, another IL STATE run park (Point 18) http://www.ilbirds.com/index.php?topic=53900.0 http://www.ksdk.com/news/article/400514/3/Government-shutdown-closes-Corps-of-Engineers-campgrounds http://www.bnd.com/2013/10/01/2828287/government-shutdown-will-force.html Would assume other birding areas in St. L are closed as well (just off the top of my head) IL: Two Rivers NWR MO: RMBS parking lots (already mentioned), Clarence Cannon NWR, Probably any areas with boatramps to the Miss. or MO River Hope this is enough information for you ST. LOUIS BIRDERS. Sure more info can be googled. Know before you go. Charlene Malone St. Louis co. ------------------------------------------------------------ The Audubon Society of Missouri's Wild Bird Discussion Forum ASM Website: http://mobirds.org/ ABA Birding Code of Ethics http://www.aba.org/about/ethics.html