Excusez moi! The post I posted today belongs here. Please read that in this context.
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Not if Madam Sosostris is involved, not to mention the shadow walking beside us, or the dog & corpse, or the dead sound of the bell &c., &c.
If the structure is occult, how can the message not be? The medium IS the message. As it is, Eliot had no message, whereby the poem is a reverse monster, a monster being a figure without a ground. A ground without a figure is a genius invention, opaque and so occult.
Chokh Raj <[log in to unmask]
You would agree with me, though, Peter, that Eliot utilized the cards for their symbolic value, and as structural devices, rather than as instruments of the occult.
|For a virtually contemporary take,
one could look at Chas. Williams' THE GREATER TRUMPS. Williams, like Yeats, Crowley, &c. belonged to the Society of the Golden Dawn which carried a lot of cultural weight at a time when the occult was very influential.
Chokh Raj <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
The Tarot Fortune in The Waste Land
"[T]he Tarot fortune is more than incidental to the meaning and movement of The Waste Land. ... "[I]ndividual reflection" provides meaning for the cards, since "the pictures are like doors which open into unexpected chambers or like a turn in the open road with a wide prospect beyond."
Could the list throw light on the various ramifications of the symbol of wheel in TWL?
I had one in mind but of that later, after I hear from you.