Apprehension of a subjective reality in terms of objective images.
That's the mantra, maybe.
P> Those are ancillary elements which reinforce Phoenecia but they don't say why.
I want to highly recommend an essay on Eliot's "Dans le Restaurant" (which contains Eliot's first reference to Phlebas the Phoenician). The essay, written by the late Professor William Arrowsmith, is "Daedal Harmonies: A Dialogue on Eliot and the Classics," Southern Review 13 (1977) 1-47.
In that essay, Arrowsmith postulates several ideas about why Phlebas is Phoenician. Arrowsmith's main idea is that Eliot is taking us back as far as written literature can go. As noted in Wikipedia "The Phoenicians were the first state-level society to make extensive use of the alphabet. The Phoenician phonetic alphabet is generally believed to be the ancestor of almost all modern alphabets." Arrowsmith views the Phoenician reference as similar to the reference to Mylae, an ancient war, bringing up the idea that "this has all happened before; this is the human condition."
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Those are ancillary elements which reinforce Phoenecia but they don't say why.
Nancy Gish <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Because Dido was Phoenician, and there had been a long passage on Dido and Aeneas, and because Carthage was first defeated at sea by Rome in the battle at Mylae. Among many other reasons.
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Why Phoenician? He is another figure in the ground, but why Phoenician? Why not Egyptian? Greek? Roman?
Chokh Raj <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
fact and artifact: vis-a-vis the postulate of the fugue
"Here, said she, is your card, the drowned Phoenician Sailor."
Well, it may as well be the poet who is "drowned" here, vis-a-vis his nervous breakdown, passing into a fugue in which state the "unconscious" wakes up to a mode of recollection and recreation. And even though there is always a correlation between "the man who suffers and the mind which creates,"
Nothing of him that doth fade
But doth suffer a sea-change
Into something rich and strange.