Well guys I profoundly disagree that people not speaking English is a barrier to investigative journalism.
Language differences are one part of a cultural diversity that preserves differences of perspective that we vitally need to keep alive. Unification of language creates unification of views that we should abhor. If everybody spoke English they could all just read American newspapers. It's happening anyway like Starbucks and McDonalds - but long live the silos of non Anglos.

From a more lighthearted perspective , the ability of a freelance to write the same story again in another language keeps many a good reporter in business - and living in fear of Google translate!!


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On 13 Jun 2013, at 18:10, HUNTER Mark <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

I won't be in San Antonio, alas, got another gig.
Drew is right that English is the business language, including the IJ business. But there are people who don't speak or write it whom we need to know. We also need editors who can bring local production in local languages up to global standards in English. Scoop and OCCRP are probably the people who know this best, be nice to learn more about how they do it. Hint hint hint.
Best to all

Dr. Mark Lee Hunter
Adjunct Professor and Senior Research Fellow
INSEAD Social Innovation Centre

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I don't disagree with you Drew - however you can be a pretty great reporter in your own country without speaking a lick of English, as you know very well...
Would love to talk to you about this someday in the not too distant future - coming to the US anytime soon? Like for the IRE Conference in San Antonio, hint hint. Hope to see many of you there and continue the discussion on the Riverwalk.


Lise Olsen
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The Houston Chronicle
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This sounds kind of cold but if you want to be an international investigative reporter, you almost have to speak English or a major regional language (Russian, Chinese, Spanish).   That's because you have to be able to work in many countries and talk to people and you have to use a regional language.  If you want to do global work, you have to speak English or you are seriously hampered.  Or your reporting partner has to speak English.     A lot of groups (like ARIJ and OCCRP) fund language training.   And if you want to reach the world, your website has to be in English or a major language.  Otherwise, you cut out most of the world.  I'd love to be able to read Narco Mafia Magazine but its only in Italian.



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Mark -
Great point.
I've been thinking a lot about this too - we need to figure out how to find and/or adapt great resources to other major world languages.
This list itself is only in English - though so by definition we're excluding and/or under representing those who don't speak it well
 even though that's not intentional I know.


Lise Olsen
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I agree. I also wish we had more stuff not in English.
Translation is the single biggest bottleneck in IJ right now. Followed by the shortage of editing skills.
Best to all

Dr. Mark Lee Hunter
Adjunct Professor and Senior Research Fellow
INSEAD Social Innovation Centre
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Great stuff! Good that Luuk reminds us of 'barbarians at the gate'.

Yesterday, when joining a lecture by ICIJ director Gerard Ryle, someone brought up his book 'Firepower', on one of Australia's most spectacular frauds uncovered by journalists. according to Wikipedia:
"Much of the critical inquiry into Firepower was instigated and pursued by the Sydney Morning Herald<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sydney_Morning_Herald>'s senior investigative journalist Gerard Ryle<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerard_Ryle>. In May 2009, Allen & Unwin<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allen_%26_Unwin> published Ryle's book Firepower: The most spectacular fraud in Australian history which revealed both the fraud's magnitude and the unwitting participation of Australian government agencies and personages, including the then prime minister, John Howard."

Though I don't know the book myself, since Ryle last night explained how this Firepower story and the book he wrote were more than instrumental in the current #offshoreleaks investigation started by ICIJ, I sure intend to read it, and those who had read it and were present last night thought it a real inspiration. So we don't forget about the work done 'down under'.

cheers,
Margo





On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 4:27 PM, HUNTER Mark <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
Hi Thomas, first we have to finish!
Along those lines, this from Luuk Sengers:

Mark Schapiro's book:"Exposed: The Toxic Chemistry of Everyday Products and What's at Stake for American Power" <http://www.amazon.com/Exposed-Chemistry-Everyday-Products-American/dp/1603580581/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1370937808&sr=1-1> is an example of his craftsmanship. I think is he the single best environmental investigative reporter around. He set the standard for a generation after him (to which I count myself), showing that environmental reporting is not for treehuggers or the fainthearted.

Another book that should not be absent from our list is "Fast Food Nation"<http://www.amazon.com/Fast-Food-Nation-Dark-All-American/dp/0547750331/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1370938587&sr=1-1&keywords=schlosser+fast+food> by Eric Schlosser. Schlosser took on McDonalds, Coca Cola and their sorts... without getting sued! An example that documentation does not have to come in the way of storytelling.

I remember the impact of yet an other great book on us, raving young economy reporters in the 90s: "Barbarians at the Gate: The Fall of RJR Nabisco"<http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&field-keywords=Barbarians%20at%20the%20Gate>, by Bryan Burrough and John Helyar. It completely revolutionized the way we wrote about companies: less focusing on money and structures, and more on power and people.

MLH: The book that paved the way for Barbarians was "Indecent Exposure" by David McClintick (circa 77?). Amazing piece of boardroom reporting.

Dr. Mark Lee Hunter
Adjunct Professor and Senior Research Fellow
INSEAD Social Innovation Centre
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Dear Mark,
When and where will your final list on IJ writings be published?
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Great add to the list. Many thanks, Paul.
Will you be at CIJ? I have some info that may be useful to you from a campaign journalism perspective.
Yours

Dr. Mark Lee Hunter
Adjunct Professor and Senior Research Fellow
INSEAD Social Innovation Centre
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Mark,

I was talking to a clinical psychologist yesterday who reminded me of Robert Whitaker's work and it struck me that he is a candidate for your list. It is also an interesting example of journalistic expertise that impacts on and challenges the industry/university complex, in this case Big Pharma.

PL


Two of Robert Whitaker's books are among the most cited in the critical psychiatry literature: Mad in America (2002), Anatomy of an Epidemic (2010). He has received numerous awards, including a George Polk Award for medical writing, and a National Association of Science Writers Award for best magazine article. He was a finalist for a Pulitzer Prize in 1998.


Whitaker's work has alerted both the medical community and the general public to the serious dangers of psychotropic medicines when used for extended periods. He has become a standard reference for the facts.

Awards
.         1998 George Polk Award for Medical Writing
.         1998 National Association for Science Writers' Science in Society Journalism Award for best magazine article
.         1999 finalist for the Pulitzer Prize for Public Service
.         2010 IRE award for best investigative journalism book of 2010


From: HUNTER Mark [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: 02 June 2013 07:23
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Subject: [GLOBAL-L] Great works of or about IJ

Hello all, I'm putting together a reading/watching list for an IJ curriculum to be used by mainly non-practitioner university professors. I'd like to know your fave works for it.

This may sound like a baroque notion, judging from the fact that there are very few works cited or required in the Ijec.org curricula list. The typical syllabus in the US is practice-based, just as the typical instructor is a practitioner. The reading list is drawn from current magazines or newspapers. But there isn't always a practitioner who can teach available, and there's a real advantage in knowing the history and benchmarks of what you're doing. So...

Works that inspired you, taught you something, set a standard for your own work. Book-length is fine; the first audience is professors, who can and do read. Docu films are welcome. Fiction is OK ("The Jungle" is indeed muckraking, and "Erin Brockovitch" is true to life). A capsule description is welcome. If I use your recommendation and didn't know it I will cite you by name as the source. Non-US works, theoretical works and historical works especially welcome.

Best to all

Dr. Mark Lee Hunter
Adjunct Professor and Senior Research Fellow
INSEAD Social Innovation Centre
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