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A friend managed to get her as a thesis supervisor. Their consultation sessions always focussed on her cats. She wouldn't talk about E. for fear of giving away something she was writing about. :) David Boyd <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >Just to add, I always found Helen Gardner's published work to be absolutely top stuff, although I believe she could be a 'difficult' person with whom to interact. > >On 14 November 2012 19:57, David Boyd <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > >Just to add, I always found Helen Gardner's published work to be absolutely top stuff, although I believe she could be a 'difficult' person with whom to interact. > > > >On 14 November 2012 18:21, Chokh Raj <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > >The book should be with me within a week and I should be with you on it soon. > > >And thanks, Peter, for bringing up the subject. I'll try to find what Dame Gardner said on it. > > >Regards, > > CR > > > >Chokh Raj <[log in to unmask]> wrote Wednesday, November 14, 2012 10:33 AM: > >Incidentally, > > >T.S. Eliot and the Language of Poetry (Studies in Modern Philology) > >By Ferenc Takacs > > >http://www.amazon.com/Language-Poetry-Studies-Modern-Philology/dp/9630553244 > > >I'd urge my library to acquire it for me, or help me access it. > > >CR > > > >Chokh Raj <[log in to unmask]> wrote Wednesday, November 14, 2012 9:53 AM: > >But Dame Philology is our Queen still, Quick to comfort Truth-loving hearts in their mother tongue (to report On the miracles She has wrought In the U.K., the O.E.D. Takes fourteen tomes): She suffers no evil, And a statesman still, so Her grace prevent, may keep a treaty, A poor commoner arrive at The Proper Name for his cat. -- W. H. Auden, "A Short Ode to a Philologist" > > >http://lonelyphilologist.blogspot.com/2010/06/showing-my-students-how-to-embed.html > >CR > > > >P <[log in to unmask]> wrote Wed, Nov 14, 2012 9:10:12 AM: > >One obvious place to start would be the homage to Dante in Little Gidding, but perhaps that is a special case because it is such direct stylistic creation, outstanding though it be. A more appropriate example is MITC which uses the Anglo-Saxon and medieval rhythms of works like Everyman. That was quite deliberate as Eliot himself said. I believe Helen Gardner remarked on it more fully somewhere. > > > >Chokh Raj <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > >That facility and through that facility getting at the essence of things. >Thus, for instance, not merely learning Sanskrit but through it >getting at the heart of ancient Indian wisdom. >The marvel ceases not. > >CR > > > >Peter Montgomery <[log in to unmask]> wrote Mon, Nov 12, 2012 8:35:53 AM: > >Mark Twain once said, "My philological studies have satisfied me that a gifted person ought to learn English (barring spelling and pronouncing) in thirty hours, French in thirty days, and German in thirty years." > >Eliot seems to have learned them all, all at once, not to mention Latin and Sanskrit. > >I don't recall our having discussed Eliot's facility with language, which it seems to me to have been quite phenomenal and one of the things that makes his work so incredibly attractive. I know it is gauche on this list to say nice things about Eliot, but there it is. I've done it and I'm very glad. > > > > > > >