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Who says what in this post? Carrol > -----Original Message----- > From: T. S. Eliot Discussion forum. [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of > Materer, Timothy J. > Sent: Friday, November 09, 2012 9:12 AM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: E's Religion: reply to P > > Concerning passages below, there is nothing pragmatic in this first, late passage. > He's a long way from his Harvard years. On the other hand, a faith that operates > only by waiting for some kind of confirmation is not incompatible with pragmatism. > Concerning the second, I think it's a case of logic taking us to an aporia that only > faith can resolve. > > > > > Kirsch needs to study Eliot a bit more. > > "I said to my soul, be still, and wait without hope > For hope would be hope for the wrong thing; wait without love > For love would be love of the wrong thing; there is yet faith > But the faith and the love and the hope are all in the waiting. > Wait without thought, for you are not ready for thought: > So the darkness shall be the light, and the stillness the dancing." > > That is the thought of a pragmatist? > > > > I would say there a stunning absence of any idea of the roll of faith in > all this, as if logic alone is the determining factor. What a person thinks and what > a person accepts on faith are different things. > >