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Just to add, I always found Helen Gardner's published work to be absolutely
top stuff, although I believe she could be a 'difficult' person with whom
to interact.

On 14 November 2012 19:57, David Boyd <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Just to add, I always found Helen Gardner's published work to be
> absolutely  top stuff, although I believe she could be a 'difficult' person
> with whom to interact.
>
>
> On 14 November 2012 18:21, Chokh Raj <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> The book should be with me within a week and I should be with you on it
>> soon.
>>
>> And thanks, Peter, for bringing up the subject. I'll try to find what
>> Dame Gardner said on it.
>>
>> Regards,
>>   CR
>>
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>>
>> Chokh Raj <[log in to unmask]> wrote Wednesday, November 14, 2012 10:33
>> AM:
>>
>> Incidentally,
>>
>> T.S. Eliot and the Language of Poetry (Studies in Modern Philology)
>> By Ferenc Takacs
>>
>>
>> http://www.amazon.com/Language-Poetry-Studies-Modern-Philology/dp/9630553244
>>
>> I'd urge my library to acquire it for me, or help me access it.
>>
>> CR
>>
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>>
>> Chokh Raj <[log in to unmask]> wrote Wednesday, November 14, 2012 9:53
>> AM:
>>
>> But Dame Philology is our Queen still, Quick to comfort Truth-loving
>> hearts in their mother tongue (to report On the miracles She has wrought In
>> the U.K., the O.E.D. Takes fourteen tomes): She suffers no evil, And a
>> statesman still, so Her grace prevent, may keep a treaty, A poor commoner
>> arrive at The Proper Name for his cat. -- W. H. Auden, "A Short Ode to a
>> Philologist"
>>
>>
>> http://lonelyphilologist.blogspot.com/2010/06/showing-my-students-how-to-embed.html
>>
>> CR
>>
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>> *
>> *
>> P <[log in to unmask]> wrote Wed, Nov 14, 2012 9:10:12 AM:
>>
>>   One obvious place to start would be the homage to Dante in Little
>> Gidding, but perhaps that is a special case because it is such direct
>> stylistic creation, outstanding though it be. A more appropriate example is
>> MITC which uses the Anglo-Saxon and medieval rhythms of works like
>> Everyman. That was quite deliberate as Eliot himself said. I believe Helen
>> Gardner remarked on it more fully somewhere.
>>
>>
>> Chokh Raj <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>> That facility and through that facility getting at the essence of things.
>> Thus, for instance, not merely learning Sanskrit but through it
>> getting at the heart of ancient Indian wisdom.
>> The marvel ceases not.
>>
>> CR
>>
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>>
>> Peter Montgomery <[log in to unmask]> wrote Mon, Nov 12, 2012
>> 8:35:53 AM:
>>
>>   Mark Twain once said, "My philological studies have satisfied me that
>> a gifted person ought to learn English (barring spelling and pronouncing)
>> in thirty hours, French in thirty days, and German in thirty years."
>>
>> Eliot seems to have learned them all, all at once, not to mention Latin
>> and Sanskrit.
>>
>> I don't recall our having discussed Eliot's facility with language, which
>> it seems to me to have been quite phenomenal and one of the things that
>> makes his work so incredibly attractive. I know it is gauche on this list
>> to say nice things about Eliot, but there it is. I've done it and I'm very
>> glad.
>>
>>
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