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The ancient rime of the modern mariner
Redeem the time
And he a face still forming
The sad ghost of Coleridge
A familiar compound  ghost
Redeem the time
Beckons to me from the shadows
Redeem the time
Old men should be explorers
Redeem the dream!
 
PM

Chokh Raj <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

>Or better still to quote the opening lines of the same stanza from The Dry Salvages:
>
>It seems, as one becomes older,
>That the past has another pattern, and ceases to be a mere sequence -
>Or even development: the latter a partial fallacy
>Encouraged by superficial notions of evolution,
>Which becomes, in the popular mind, a means of disowning the past.
>The moments of happiness - not the sense of well-being,
>Fruition, fulfilment, security or affection,
>Or even a very good dinner, but the sudden illumination -
>We had the experience but missed the meaning,
>And approach to the meaning restores the experience
>In a different form, beyond any meaning
>We can assign to happiness. 
>
>CR
>
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>________________________________
> From: Chokh Raj <[log in to unmask]>
>To: [log in to unmask] 
>Sent: Friday, July 6, 2012 2:36 PM
>Subject: Re: Meeting the stranger
> 
>
>"The backward look behind the assurance
> Of recorded history, the backward half-look
> Over the shoulder, towards the primitive terror." 
>
> CR
>
>
>________________________________
> From: P <[log in to unmask]>
>To: [log in to unmask] 
>Sent: Friday, July 6, 2012 1:11 PM
>Subject: Re: Meeting the stranger
> 
>
>The ancient rime of the new mariner.
>PM
>
>Chokh Raj <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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>
>"restoring / With a new verse the ancient rhyme." 
>
>CR 
>
>
>
>________________________________
> From:  P <[log in to unmask]>; 
>To:  <[log in to unmask]>; 
>Subject:  Re: Meeting the stranger 
>Sent:  Fri, Jul 6, 2012 12:22:34 PM 
> 
>
>And they are that with which we create the future. Point well taken pm 
>
>Tom Colket <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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>P> Art is prophetic; it can even create the future.
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>The Modernists had an even more startling theory: the present changes the past.  
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>For example, consider this passage from Eliot's "Tradition and the Individual Talent"
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>". . . the difference between the present and the past is that the conscious present is an awareness of the past in a way and to an extent which the past's awareness of itself cannot show.
>  
>Some one said: 'The dead writers are remote from us because we know so much more than they did.' Precisely, and they are that which we know."
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>-- Tom --
>
> 
>> Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2012 01:45:45 -0700
>> From: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: Meeting the stranger
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> 
>> The future is always strange; science is always about the past. Art is prophetic; it can even create the future. One can't get anything more out of date than the big bang. Fiat lux!!!