Thanks, Rick, yes, the 17-year old impervious to questions fairly radiated from the interview. Not being a scientist or mathematician and not having the patience for adolescent takes on the universe, I'll wait for a grown-up's math-free rendition of cosmology. In the meantime, I'd recommend Stephen Barr's MODERN PHYSICS AND ANCIENT FAITH for an adult view of the relation between religious thought and the possible implications of current science. Barr keeps a more even-handed, tighter rein on his speculations thereby promoting, I think, a higher likelihood of getting to "the hint half-guessed." As his posts of a couple weeks ago demonstrated, anything our list member Tom Gray, who does speak expertly the language of math and science, would have to say in this area would be of high interest. Ken A On 7/12/2012 6:44 PM, Richard Seddon wrote: > Ken > > Yea he makes a mess out of English and Philosophy. > > His problem is that he is not Asimov with Asimov's ability to render into literature concepts best displayed with Math. > > The math of the quantum world allows "a quantum something" to randomly pop into existence. Krauss's problem is that when faced with the question "what was there before?" he can only answer "why, nothing" because that is what the math is saying. But then when asked to define Nothing he fails miserably because he has arrogantly avoided Philosophy in favor of "hard science". > > He also juvenilely enjoys shocking others.