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I have enjoyed it all CR.
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  From: Chokh Raj 
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  Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2012 11:02 PM
  Subject: Re: Objective Correlative in Eliot's Poetry (was Re: OT - Chapel Perilous)


        Objective Correlative and the Articulation of Vision 

        "The hint half guessed, the gift half understood" is the vision --
        "heard, half-heard, in the stillness / Between two waves of the sea."
        And it is through the objective correlative that it finds articulation.

        And on that note I hope to conclude the inconclusible.

        Thanks,
        CR 




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  From: Chokh Raj <[log in to unmask]>; 
  To: <[log in to unmask]>; 
  Subject: Re: Objective Correlative in Eliot's Poetry (was Re: OT - Chapel Perilous) 
  Sent: Wed, May 9, 2012 7:18:43 PM 

              Objective Correlative and the Articulation of Vision 

              "the unattended
              Moment, the moment in and out of time,
              The distraction fit, lost in a shaft of sunlight,
              The wild thyme unseen, or the winter lightning
              Or the waterfall, or music heard so deeply
              That it is not heard at all" 

              "These are only hints and guesses, 
              Hints followed by guesses;"

              "The hint half guessed, the gift half understood" 
              is Objective Correlative.

              CR 




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        From: Chokh Raj <[log in to unmask]>; 
        To: <[log in to unmask]>; 
        Subject: Re: Objective Correlative in Eliot's Poetry (was Re: OT - Chapel Perilous) 
        Sent: Wed, May 9, 2012 2:19:08 PM 

                    "And at the corner of the street 
                    A lonely cab-horse steams and stamps. 
                    And then the lighting of the lamps."
                     
                    "If the street were time and he at the end of the street"

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                    Objective Correlative and the Timless Moments, the Epiphanical Moments:

                    Sudden in a shaft of sunlight
                    Even while the dust moves
                    There rises the hidden laughter
                    Of children in the foliage

                    Whisper of running streams, and winter lightning.
                    The wild thyme unseen and the wild strawberry,
                    The laughter in the garden, echoed ecstasy
                    Not lost, but requiring, pointing to the agony
                    Of death and birth.

                    After the kingfisher's wing
                    Has answered light to light, and is silent, the light is still
                    At the still point of the turning world.

                      Time past and time future
                    Allow but a little consciousness.
                    To be conscious is not to be in time
                    But only in time can the moment in the rose-garden,
                    The moment in the arbour where the rain beat,
                    The moment in the draughty church at smokefall
                    Be remembered; involved with past and future.
                    Only through time time is conquered.

                    -----

                    Intimations of Immortality.

                    CR 




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              From: Chokh Raj <[log in to unmask]>; 
              To: <[log in to unmask]>; 
              Subject: Fw: Objective Correlative in Eliot's Poetry (was Re: OT - Chapel Perilous) 
              Sent: Tue, May 8, 2012 4:40:17 AM 

                          GERONTION

                          "In the juvescence of the year 
                          Came Christ the tiger."         
                           
                          "In depraved May, dogwood and chestnut, flowering judas, 
                          To be eaten, to be divided, to be drunk 
                          Among whispers; by Mr. Silvero 
                          With caressing hands, at Limoges 
                          Who walked all night in the next room;         
                          By Hakagawa, bowing among the Titians; 
                          By Madame de Tornquist, in the dark room 
                          Shifting the candles; Fraulein von Kulp 
                          Who turned in the hall, one hand on the door. Vacant shuttles 
                          Weave the wind. I have no ghosts,         
                          An old man in a draughty house 
                          Under a windy knob." 
                           
                          "The tiger springs in the new year. Us he devours."

                          ---

                          Asserting an 'absolute' meaning.

                          CR
                         




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                    From: Chokh Raj <[log in to unmask]>; 
                    To: <[log in to unmask]>; 
                    Subject: Re: Objective Correlative in Eliot's Poetry (was Re: OT - Chapel Perilous) 
                    Sent: Mon, May 7, 2012 8:02:10 PM 

                          "There, the eyes are
                           Sunlight on a broken column
                           There, is a tree swinging
                           And voices are
                           In the wind’s singing
                           More distant and more solemn
                           Than a fading star."


                          "Sightless, unless
                           The eyes reappear
                           As the perpetual star
                           Multifoliate rose
                           Of death’s twilight kingdom
                           The hope only
                           Of empty men."


                          The evocation, as it were, is mantric.


                          CR



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                          From: Chokh Raj <[log in to unmask]>
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                          Sent: Monday, May 7, 2012 3:01 PM
                          Subject: Re: Objective Correlative in Eliot's Poetry (was Re: OT - Chapel Perilous)



                          ''which shall be the formula of that particular emotion'' 

                                                                   "Son of man,     
                                You cannot say, or guess, for you know only  
                                A heap of broken images, where the sun beats,  
                                And the dead tree gives no shelter, the cricket no relief,  
                                And the dry stone no sound of water." 

                                "O City City, I can sometimes hear  
                                 Beside a public bar in Lower Thames Street,     
                                 The pleasant whining of a mandoline  
                                 And a clatter and a chatter from within  
                                 Where fishmen lounge at noon: where the walls  
                                 Of Magnus Martyr hold  
                                 Inexplicable splendour of Ionian white and gold."    


                                This elephant bounces quite gracefully, Peter.
                                And it takes off too! 

                                CR  





                         
                   
             
       

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