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Here's a composite GoogleEarth view with the state line added. http://www.photosbyat.com/photos/1608459287_WtSPZ3N-XL.jpg Last Friday I watched from Riverlands Way the Long-tailed Duck and 4 Surf Scoters to the left/upstream of the lock wall end as they swam down stream. The point where the state line turns upstream is approx. 140 yards from the edge of the channel so they were well within Missouri. Also viewing them from the spillway next to the dam they where to the left of the rock jetty. Al Smith Bridgeton, St. Louis County http://www.photosbyat.com http://MoBirds.smugmug.com (admin) Blog http://blog.photosbyat.com/ On Tue, 29 Nov 2011 11:10:47 -0600, Charlene Malone <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >NOT to be a nitpicker and/or buzzkiller BUT.... when waterfowl >and gulls are as far out in Ellis Bay as the Surf Scoters and the L-T Duck >are usually, this is actually ILLINOIS. (please google a Riverlands map >with a stateline.......sorry pressed for time) The Dam is entirely in IL. > >For MYSELF, I try to eyeball on what side the birds are compared to the >rock jetty that comes out of the concrete road/walkway (goes from >across the maintenance buildings right up to the dam - look for all the >"keep >out", "no trespassing" signs) >If the birds are on the dam side of this jetty, I count them as being in IL. >If they are on the Riverlands Way side of this jetty, I count them in MO. >But then there is that pesky part of the stateline that angles across in >the jetty >corner......augh. > >Of course, one may have different visual landmarks to determine >the stateline AND it is up to the individual how one wishes to enter >them onto >one's lists or eBird account. > >This stateline has been discussed for as long as I have been birding >(17+ yrs) and probably >will always be as long as there are birders to dispute it.......;-) > >Good birding no matter what side of the line, >Charlene Malone >St. Louis co. > >------------------------------------------------------------ >The Audubon Society of Missouri's Wild Bird Discussion Forum >To unsubscribe or change subscription options: >https://po.missouri.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mobirds-l&A=1 ------------------------------------------------------------ The Audubon Society of Missouri's Wild Bird Discussion Forum To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://po.missouri.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mobirds-l&A=1