Thank you CR for trying to keep our focus on
what this list is supposed to be about.

We are drowning in distractions.

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Chokh Raj 
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  Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2011 2:49 AM
  Subject: Re: The Jew in Eliot's poetry

  death by water 


  "Defunctive music under sea" -- "Tra-la-la-la-la-la-laire" 

  "goats and monkeys, with such hair too!" --

  a tale of sordid commerce mating with unbridled lust. 


  "Her shuttered barge 
   Burned on the water all the day." 

  If "this or such" was Bleistein's way, 
  then "this or such" was Eugenides' way too, 
  the Smyrna merchant, the "one-eyed" merchant
  (literally or metaphorically), 
  spreading the homosexual cult of sterility 
  instead of the mystical cult of fertility: 

  "Mr Eugenides, the Smyrna merchant 
   Unshaven, with a pocket full of currants 
   C. i. f. London: documents at sight, 
   Asked me in demotic French 
   To luncheon at the Cannon Street Hotel 
   Followed by a week-end at the Metropole." 

  Hence the admonishment, addressed equally to both the Gentile and the Jew: 

                           "Gentile or Jew 
   O you who turn the wheel and look to windward, 
   Consider Phlebas, who was once handsome and tall as you."

  For the consequences to both shall be the same. 
  To quote from 'Gerontion', 

  "Gull against the wind, in the windy straits 
   Of Belle Isle, or running on the Horn,
   White feathers in the snow, the Gulf claims, 
   And an old man driven by the Trades 
   To a a sleepy corner."  

  -- the "sleepy corner", the grave -- death equals all. 

  What is left, in each case, is a symbol -- 
  "A symbol perfected in death":

  "A lustreless protrusive eye" 
  staring from the grave, 
  "from the protozoic slime", 
  at "a perspective of Canaletto". 

  As the poet remarks in ''Little Gidding': 

  "These men, and those who opposed them
   And those whom they opposed
   Accept the constitution of silence
   And are folded in a single party."

  Hence the chorus-like refrain (cf. 'Dans le Restaurant') : 

  "Phlebas the Phoenician, a fortnight dead, 
   Forgot the cry of gulls, and the deep seas swell 
   And the profit and loss. 
   A current under sea 
   Picked his bones in whispers. As he rose and fell 
   He passed the stages of his age and youth 
   Entering the whirlpool." 

  From: Chokh Raj <[log in to unmask]>
  To: T. S. Eliot Discussion forum. <[log in to unmask]>
  Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 2:55 PM
  Subject: Re: The Jew in Eliot's poetry (was Re: Eliot and literary culture)

  //Certainly, Rick. They all meld into one.//