This whole list has become pointless unless others join in and actually
discuss Eliot. As it stands, it is not even a list. I feel a fool for
even commenting.

We used to have discussions; that almost never happens now, and when it
does briefly, it is quickly interrupted and distorted and everyone
stops. So I may as well also.

>>> Carrol Cox 10/30/11 6:44 PM >>>
When has cr paid any respect to ANY poem by anyone. He certainly has
never paid any respect to any poemby Elit, since he takes Eliot’s text,
ignores it, and writes acommentary on some fantasy of his own which
would make Eliot gag if he were alive to see it.


From: T. S. Eliot Discussion forum. [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
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One owes respect to Yeats's poem. It is not about any of this. That is


>>> Chokh Raj 10/30/11 5:40 PM >>>
All Saints' Day 

The vigil of this feast is popularly called "Hallowe'en" or "Halloween".

'Solemnity' is celebrated on the first of November -- instituted to
honour all the saints,
known and unknown, to supply any deficiencies in the faithful's
celebration of saints' 

feasts during the year. 

Faced with 'darkness', one may surely implore some 'light'. 

No harm, I suppose. 


From: Chokh Raj 
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Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2011 12:43 PM
Subject: Re: OT - Halloween
"O sages standing in God's holy fire
As in the gold mosaic of a wall,
Come from the holy fire, perne in a gyre,
And be the singing-masters of my soul." 


From: Chokh Raj 
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That sounds very reassuring, Peter. Thanks. - CR

From: Peter Montgomery 
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//Hallow means Holy.

Hallowe'en is the evening of the day of all saints,//

The dark before the light.


----- Original Message ----- 

From: Chokh Raj 

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Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2011 2:41 PM

Subject: OT - Halloween

Halloween: The Day of the Dead

"Dust inbreathed was a house—
The walls, the wainscot and the mouse" 

"The parched eviscerate soil
Gapes at the vanity of toil,
Laughs without mirth." 

"Water and fire shall rot
The marred foundations we forgot,
Of sanctuary and choir."