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More like a barmaid than a landlady, smart enough to take charge of the pub,
as also of Lil's situation and exploit it to the hilt. Her narrative reveals her as a
seductive character of no mean proportion who fits the bill in a 'wasteland'.
 
"He said, I swear, I can't bear to look at you.
 And no more can't I, I said, and think of poor Albert,
 He's been in the army for four years, he wants a good time,
 And if you don't give it him, there's others will, I said."
 
Atkins does full justice to this character, with her tone and expression.
 
CR
 

From: Mikemail <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Friday, September 9, 2011 12:37 PM
Subject: Re: vis-a-vis 'Four Quartets'

In London pubs at that time it would more likely have been a male landlord I think.  That's why I assumed a male voice but  //a good old fashioned barmaid or landlady who liked a gossip// would fit the bill for Dame Eileen's rendition - Coronation Street type (although that series is set in Manchester where I would not be surprised with a pub landlady - the North is different)
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O, it did not register with me -- as it does now -- that the narrator of Lil's story could be the landlady or senior bar-tender herself -- and that she lifts her voice from time to time to announce HURRY UP PLEASE IT'S TIME. Wow! That possibility never occurred to me. It's in order, so.
 
Thank you, Mike.
 
 CR 

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Sent: Friday, September 9, 2011 6:41 AM
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Well it does if she is the landlady - or senior bar staff.


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> MY preference is for it to be the landlord.
> Doesn't really make sense otherwise.
>
> Cheers
> Peter
>
>
> Quoting Mikemail <[log in to unmask]>:
>
>> Thank you so much CR -this is the performance which I saw 3 times in  one
>> week!  I had a video of part of it, but I thought the Youtube had been
>> taken
>> off long ago.  One piece of Atkin's reading did surprise me, I remember,
>> "Hurry up please it's time!"  I always thought would be in a different
>> voice
>> - a landlord, not one of those in the conversation.  Was this just my
>> male
>> perception or did Eliot mean it to be this way?
>>  ----- Original Message -----
>>  From: Chokh Raj
>>  To: [log in to unmask]
>>  Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 1:51 AM
>>  Subject: Re: vis-a-vis 'Four Quartets'
>>
>>
>>  I'm sorry, David. Maybe I over-reacted.
>>
>>  Thanks, Mike. But for your mention, I wouldn't have had the experience
>> of
>> my life
>>  listening to this fabulous rendition of The Waste Land. Here it is at
>> Youtube:
>>
>>
>>  THE WASTE LAND - read by Edward Fox, Eileen Atkins, and Michael Gough
>>  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1TXBzw98ng
>>
>>  an overwhelming experience
>>
>>  CR
>>
>>
>>
>>  From: Mikemail <[log in to unmask]>
>>  To: [log in to unmask]
>>  Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2011 6:47 PM
>>  Subject: Re: vis-a-vis 'Four Quartets'
>>
>>
>>  Yet, I think, 1989, London theatre, I found his recitation of TWL most
>> haunting, and he had look of TSE, which made it more enthralling. He was
>> joined by Eileen Aitkens and Michael Gough (who actually forgot the word
>> etherised when reading Prufrock).
>>    As it happens, I was in Whitley Bay, briefly, two weeks ago, and would
>> have been delighted to catch his performance - or any other - this once
>> delightful resort has been in decline for some years, although I believe
>> there are plans to revive it.
>>
>>
>>  ----- Original Message -----
>>    From: David Boyd
>>    To: [log in to unmask]
>>    Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 7:45 PM
>>    Subject: Re: vis-a-vis 'Four Quartets'
>>
>>
>>    Just to say, had the opportunity to hear Edward Fox recite Eliot last
>> year, and both I and my companion were very underwhelmed  fine actor sure
>> he
>> is, but not in this regard
>>
>>    david
>>
>>
>>    On 8 September 2011 19:21, Chokh Raj <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>>      and the legacy endures
>>
>>      Edward Fox vis-a-vis 'Four Quartets'
>>
>>
>>
> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/theatre/theatre-features/8347703/Edward-Fox-interview-Life-the-universe-and-everything.html
>>
>>
>>      Where poetry attains to a state of immortality --
>>      and not just the Quartets
>>      but all poetry that Eliot chose to publish.
>>      A perfectionist that he was,
>>      he wouldn't be content
>>      with anything less.
>>
>>      a humble opinion, of course ;->
>>
>>      CR
>>
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