The Catholic Church does not worship Mary, nor
does it consider her as
having anything of a divine nature. One of
the very early councils of the
Church, I think the one in Nicea, defined Jesus
Christ as both God and
man in an inseparable union, and to affirm
that, indicated that Mary gave
birth to the entire person of Jesus, both divine and human, so the calling
of her to be the Mopther of God is a singular assertion of Christ's
Mary is honoured or venerated in a very special
way, but to say she is
be to assert a heresy.
As I understand it, the Anglicans do subscribe
to the same doctrines
of that early council.
Your highschool religious education is
singularly lacking, it would seem,
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Subject: Re: Christian Belief in
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Worship of the Virgin Mary as nearly the fourth person of the Blessed
Trinity is absent from Anglicanism. There are many other differences, such
as confession made to a priest, but the Mother of God is a biggie. The
Catholic church decided to incorporate Mary when efforts to ban
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At risk of being pedantic, don't think TSE ever converted to
He converted to the established Church of England, to the 'High
Church / Anglo-Catholic' faction within it, but still to Protestant
Anglicanism, as opposed to Roman Catholicism.
Theology isn't my interest, but believe there are fundamental
cultural and theological differences here, not least Papal authority /
Not to mention female priests !
In reality, it's all the spectrum of the very 'broad' Anglican
Church - at one end, the Pope has sought to entice the Anglo-Catholics
back to the Vatican fold, but at the other 'Low Church' end, this notion
would be unthinkable.
And culturally, this does still matter a lot - just look at
Northern Ireland and its troubles, for example.
On 7 March 2010 17:18, Nancy Gish <[log in to unmask]>
He grew up in a religious Christian home. That is
known. No one has said otherwise. That is not the
issue. It is a fact that at Harvard he attended Buddhist
meetings and studied Eastern philosophy, but he did not become a
Buddhist. What is there to demonstrate about his early Christian
milieu that anyone denies?
>>> Chokh Raj 03/07/10 11:32 AM
In the posts that follow, I intend taking up Eliot's
preoccupation with Christian thought and imagery in the poetry
he chose to publish before his formal conversion
to Catholicism. What fascinates is the fervence,
ardor and earnestness that he brings to bear upon his
treatment of them. To me it is here, more than anywhere
else, that one can trace the poet's essential rootedness in