If there is conflict, then there is drama, whether it be internal or external or both.

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  From: Nancy Gish 
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  Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 9:27 PM
  Subject: Re: 'Gerontion' -- the dramatic arc

  I do not understand how this can be a "classical dramatic structure" when it states the opposite.  That structure is a description of  an action: it refers to plot. And the central point Gerontion describes is precisely that he has not acted.  He was not at the hot gates; he is old and simply waiting. He says "we have not reached conclusion" [i.e., no climax or denoument]. He speaks only of endless "small deliberations"--thoughts of a dry brain in a dry season."  Classical drama is about acting and its consequences.  There is no action depicted in the lines you quote.  

  When Eliot turned to drama--even in the early Sweeney Agonistes--he showed actions.  I do not see the point of what you call an observation that cannot apply in this case.

  >>> Chokh Raj 02/19/10 11:05 PM >>>
        'Gerontion' - the dramatic arc


        Here I am, an old man in a dry month,    [line 1]

        I an old man, / A dull head among windy spaces    [lines 15-16]

        I have no ghosts / An old man in a draughty house / Under a windy knob.   [lines 30-32]

        And an old man driven by the Trades / To a sleepy corner.    [lines 72-73]


        To me the monologue moves along the lines of a classical dramatic structure -- with an Exposition, a Rising Action, a Climax, and a Resolution.  

        just an observation