Print

Print


Dear Ken,

 

I submitted Empson's valorization of ambiguity in answer to your question "Is it accurate?"

 

The truth-value of art is not its point.

 

Diana
 
> Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 12:30:30 -0500
> From: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Prufrock question
> To: [log in to unmask]
> 
> Ahhh, W. Empson, I am humbled, deflated, made to retreat into my vastly 
> inferior self.
> 
> But while doing so, I note that you have again begged the question.
> 
> Ken
> 
> Diana Manister wrote:
> > Dear Ken,
> > 
> > Since when does ambiguity in poetry signal an "anything goes" attitude?
> > 
> > Empson didn't think so when he wrote /Seven Types of Ambiguity/ in 
> > 1930, to wit:
> > 
> > The Seven Types
> > 
> >
> > 1. The first type of ambiguity is the metaphor, that is, when two
> > things are said to be alike which have different properties.
> > This concept is similar to that of metaphysical conceit.
> > 2. Two or more meanings are resolved into one. Empson characterizes
> > this as using two different metaphors at once.
> > 3. Two ideas that are connected through context can be given in one
> > word simultaneously.
> > 4. Two or more meanings that do not agree but combine to make clear
> > a complicated state of mind in the author.
> > 5. When the author discovers his idea in the act of writing. Empson
> > describes a simile that lies halfway between two statements made
> > by the author.
> > 6. When a statement says nothing and the readers are forced to
> > invent a statement of their own, most likely in conflict with
> > that of the author.
> > 7. Two words that within context are opposites that expose a
> > fundamental division in the author's mind. (wikipedia)
> >
> >
> > Hardly a new idea!
> > 
> > Diana
> > 
> > 
> > > Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 08:33:54 -0500
> > > From: [log in to unmask]
> > > Subject: Re: Prufrock question
> > > To: [log in to unmask]
> > >
> > > Diana Manister wrote:
> > > > It makes sense to me that "we" here is both intra- and
> > > > inter-, within emotional conflict and interpersonal.
> > > >
> > > > Settling on any single meaning is reductive.
> > > That begs the question: Is it accurate?
> > > > Every poem does not mean every thing.
> > > Ken A
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. Sign 
> > up now. <http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390706/direct/01/>
 		 	   		  
_________________________________________________________________
Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection.
http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390706/direct/01/