Dear CR:
A speaker who refers to himself as "we" would be schizophrenic! In order to work poetically, the plurality of subject positions would have to contain a bit of ironic distance; i.e., the speaker is somewhat dissociated, but not certifiably psychotic.

Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 08:44:00 -0800
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Subject: Re: Prufrock question
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"We have lingered in the chambers of the sea
 By sea-girls wreathed with seaweed red and brown
 Till human voices wake us, and we drown."
Since water is a powerful symbol of human subconscious, the drowning here seems to indicate the merging of the outer and inner layers of the speaker's self. If we take the "you" in the poem to be another person, how do we explain this drowning?

--- On Sun, 1/24/10, Tom Colket <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

In Eliot's "Prufrock" there are numerous places where the narrator
addresses or refers to another person, a "you" or a "we".  My question
is: Is the narrator referring to one specific person (i.e., the same
person) in all these lines, or is more than one single individual
being referenced?

Here are the six references (among all Prufrock lines with "you/your"
or "we/us/our") that I'm particularly interested in:

1) "Let us go then, you and I . . . Let us go and make our visit."

2) "And indeed there will be time . . . Time for you and time for me"

3) "And the afternoon, the evening, sleeps so peacefully! . .. .
Stretched on the floor, here beside you and me."

4) "And would it have been worth it, after all, . . . Among the
porcelain, among some talk of you and me,"

5) "Would it have been worth while,. . . To say, 'I am Lazarus, come
from the dead,/Come back to tell you all, I shall tell you all' "

//6) "We have lingered in the chambers of the sea/By sea-girls wreathed
with seaweed red and brown/Till human voices wake us, and we drown."//

-- Tom --

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