Rick wrote:

R> Tom, please, what was the original footnote?

That's a great question, but unfortunately I can't supply the answer. When I ordered the TSE 'Letters Vol 2' from Amazon.com in England, I also ordered "Notes" since I had never read it. The copy I got was the 1962 paperback edition. In my post I was trying to indicate that TSE wrote "Notes" in 1948, 14 years after he wrote the infamous line in 'After Strange Gods'. But I do not have the 1948 edition.

If anyone has the 1948 edition, it would be great if they could post the footnote so we could see what the original footnote was.

-- Tom --


> Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 06:15:16 -0500
> From: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Eliot's poetry: the medium & the message
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Tom, please, what was the original footnote?
> Tom Colket wrote:
> > Nancy wrote:
> > N> It would be hard to imagine a more unjust world than
> > N> the one Eliot idealizes in After Strange Gods,
> > N> in the name of tradition.
> >
> > The List had a long discussion in 2009 on ASG, particularly on this passage:
> >
> > "You are hardly likely to develop tradition except where the bulk of the
> > population is relatively so well off where it is that it has no
> > incentive or pressure to move about. The population should be
> > homogeneous; where two or more cultures exist in the same place they are
> > likely either to be fiercely self-conscious or both to become
> > adulterate. What is still more important is unity of religious
> > background; and reasons of race and religion combine to make any large
> > number of free-thinking Jews undesirable." (1934)
> >
> > I was recently reading Eliot's "Notes on the Definition of Culture"
> > (1948). In the Preface to the paperback edition in 1962, he wrote:
> >
> > "These 'Notes' began to take shape towards the end of the Second World
> > War. When it was suggested that they should be reprinted in 'paperback'
> > form, I re-read them for the first time for some years, expecting that I
> > should have to qualify some of the opinions expressed herein. I found to
> > my surprise that I had nothing to retract, and nothing upon which I was
> > disposed to enlarge. One footnote, on p. 70, I have re-written: it may
> > still be that I have tried to say too much too briefly, and that the
> > notion needs further elaboration."
> >
> > And what is that footnote on page 70, the one thing TSE decided needed
> > further re-writing/clarification for the 1962 edition? It is this:
> >
> > Footnote on page 70:
> >
> > "It seems to me highly desirable that there should be close
> > culture-contact between devout and practising Christians and devout and
> > practising Jews. Much culture-contact in the past has been within those
> > neutral zones of culture in which religion can he ignored, and between
> > Jews and Gentiles both more or less emancipated from their religious
> > traditions. The effect may have been to strengthen the illusion that
> > there can be culture without religion. In this context I recommend to my
> > readers two books by Professor Will Herberg published in New York:
> > 'Judaism and Modern Man' (Farrar, Straus and Cudahy) and
> > 'Protestant-Catholic-Jew' (Doubleday). "
> >
> > -- Tom --

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