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3 phone msgs this AM: MO Birds Rogles et al and the Sat. WGNSS group had 5 IBIS species at Heron pond early am & after 9 AM. probable White -faced but not sure. Also numerous shorebirds are present as well. IL birds Mark Seiffert called and they had a SCOTER at the "SP"--?-- State Park? Another person had probable WHITE WINGED SCOTERS at the Carlyle sewage lagoon off of Sand Ridge Road. Take Hwy 50 east toward South Shores, turn at the Fish Hatchery Park (Sand Ridge Road), go under train trestle and the first road to your right is the sewage lagoon. Gated but birders can walk past the gate (is my understanding, go past gate at one's own "risk") If looking for Scoters it is probably a good idea to look anywhere they have been seen in the past (Creve Coeur Lake, sewage lagoon at Reider Road, etc) Rogles et al did not see scoters at Horseshoe Lake. Don't know where the "twin scoters" were seen on Friday, anyone know where they were? No one has turned up the CALIFORNIA GULL either. Only location was "Madison co.". PRETTY PLEASE (with sugar on it) if you find good birds, please SHARE the location with your fellow birders. I am sure your generosity will be reciprocated in kind several times over. Good birding, Charlene Malone St. Louis co. BTW, RED-NECKED GREBE has been seen in East Fork Lake (Richland co.) They also had 2 Surf Scoters. Might be another species to keep you eyes open for. ------------------------------------------------------------ The Audubon Society of Missouri's Wild Bird Discussion Forum List archives: https://po.missouri.edu/archives/mobirds-l.html