----- Original Message -----From: [log in to unmask] href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">Dave FaintichSent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 11:04 AMSubject: Re: Duck StampsBob, Chris & MO-Birders -Just to follow this sensible thread one more step - and I understand why they want the birds to have time for less stress and to feed. Soooo, why not let hunters hunt Mon-Wed-Fri for 1/2 day, then let only birders and non-hunters in for 1/2 day on Tues-Thurs-Sat (or some other suitable configuration that satisfies both parties). Let everyone SHARE our natural wetlands.Remember, birders and non-hunters pay the 1/8 cent conservation sales taxes in MO, just like hunters do!! Equal opportunity for all!!
"The truth of the matter is, the birds could very well live without us, but many - perhaps all - of us would find life incomplete, indeed almost intolerable without the birds" ~~ Roger Tory Peterson
From: Missouri Wild Bird Forum [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Bob Fisher
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 10:49 AM
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Subject: Fw: Duck StampsI'm forwarding to the list a private email from Chris Barrigar to me, which states the MDC side of the waterfowl season exclusion policy so well that I think we all should see it.Thanks Chris!This is very helpful.Bob Fisher
[log in to unmask]----- Original Message -----From: [log in to unmask] href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">Chris BarrigarSent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 8:51 AMSubject: Duck StampsBob,
I understand and feel similarly as you, in that we seem to have, "less priority" than those that hunt waterfowl (regardless of time of year).
Not aware of this thread until this morning, I actually spoke with a MDC agent out at Otter Slough CA last night, and he made some very valid points during our hour plus long conversation.
One of the things that I have questioned in my 2.5 yrs here in MO, you touched base on, was the half day waterfowl hunts and why we can't have access after the hunters were gone for the day. Otter Slough CA follows this practice where they hunters have until 11am or 1 pm and after that the whole property becomes wildlife reserve.
The number one reason for this is to hold/retain more waterfowl in the area . . . repeat business for duck hunters. Number two reason is that there is not enough designated "reserve land" on site at Otter Slough CA per overall acreage, and by having 1/2 the day for hunt and the other half for reserve helps lessen the stress on the waterfowl allowing them time to rest and feed which is so crucial to them during that time of the year.
He mentioned that if people (us birdwatchers/John Q. Public) were allowed on the premises after hunting hours have expired, our presence could continue to stress the waterfowl. I understand his point. Granted they want to increase revenue, but without the birds, they won't have revenue. Stressing the birds doesn't bode well for the birds, MDC, birdwatchers or the hunters.
I'm not a political person, and I always try to see things from both (all) sides. I do deer hunt, but do not duck hunt nor do I buy a duck stamp. Otter Slough CA has many roads that border pools/fields that allow what I call "auto birding" where I birdwatch from my vehicle or I step out onto the roadside (in a fashion that I don't startle waterfowl or harrass hunters in the process). Last thing I want to be is in someone's crosshairs (literal or figurative) . . . for any reason.
I know I'm young and naive and have much to learn. I'm not sure if what I've mentioned here pertains to things up there, but I thought I'd share. I know it really doesn't help the fact that we are granted less access the waterfowl during hunting season. I guess I'm just sharing what I learned from this MDC official last night.
Good Birding my friend!
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