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Regardless of our own beliefs (or disbeliefs, as the case may be), might 
not a poet who firmly believed in original sin be exactly the poet to 
envision an "irresponsible foetus", however else it might fall out?

Diana Manister wrote:
> Dear Marcia,
>  
> "My tall husband" is not redundant.
>  
> However, unless a foetus can be responsible, or imagined to be 
> responsible, or could sanely be described as possessed of any tiny 
> degree of responsibility for anything at all, "irresponsible foetus" 
> is redundant.
>  
> Diana
>  
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> Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 10:16:25 -0400
> From: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Waste Land Sex
> To: [log in to unmask]
>
> They might be redundant, but not necessarily so.  If you don't know my 
> husband, and I say "I love my tall husband," I'm not (necessarily) 
> comparing him to my short one.  I'm being descriptive.  I don't know 
> about you, but I don't see how "irresponsible fœtus" is at all 
> redundant.  It is illuminating.
>
> Best,
> Marcia
>
> Diana Manister wrote:
>
>     "Irresponsible foetus" and "hot sun" should be sent to the
>     Department of Redundancy Department.
>      
>     Diana
>      
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>     Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 18:09:28 -0400
>     From: [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>     Subject: Re: Waste Land Sex
>     To: [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>
>     Funny thing about modifiers in English.  Do they describe?  Do
>     they invite comparisons?  Serve mixed functions?
>
>     It is true that a fœtus has no responsibilities, so, just as it is
>     accurate to say "the hot sun" without the necessity that it is
>     ever cool or that there are other suns that are, it is accurate to
>     say "an irresponsible fœtus," as long as one grants that
>     a-responsibility is irresponsibility.  (Not sure I do.)  And then
>     there is the rather creepy matter of a laughing one.  But I don't
>     there is an ambivalence in the phrase as to the function of the
>     adjective, unlike in "free-thinking Jews," the phrase that was all
>     the rage here recently, where there is one or more of Empson's
>     ambivalences.
>
>     Best,
>     Marcia
>
>
>
>     Diana Manister wrote:
>
>         Dear CR:
>          
>         First of all, I'd like to know how any foetus could be
>         responsible.
>          
>
>
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