At the risk of offending even more...
For Pete's sake, folks. Calm down. This whole line of discourse is absurd. Please refrain from further declarations.
If you absolutely must weigh in with your personal views, do it off list, as Mr. Torres has just done, adding this tag line that I do not see any relevance in with regard to this listserve:
A government big enough to give you everything you want is strong enough to take everything you have. - Thomas Jefferson
It's a beautiful evening out there. I'm going to try to find a Whip-poor-will.
Just go birding, folks,