A very striking comparison and ultimately contrast to T.E. Lawrence.
The generation looking to inherit a new world free of war, and ultimately
denied the dream by the same old guys preparing for another war.
Interesting that Eliot referred to that generation's "illusion of being disillusioned."
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In a letter around the time of the War (I am in Scotland and do not have my books here, so I cannot quote), Eliot described himself as a liberal. 
The Nation was a leftist magazine, and Eliot chose to send an anti-war letter in from a soldier--probably Maurice Haigh-Wood.  He also praise Keynes's book on the Economic Consequences of the War.  It suggests that Eliot's views were in a kind of flux, and his extreme conservatism a later development.  Clearly it was complicated at that time. 

>>> Peter Montgomery <[log in to unmask]> 4/17/2009 7:25 AM >>>
From: Nancy Gish
On the line you quote, it clearly draws on Dante, as all the notes of all
scholars have noted for decades, but it also evokes the dead of the War and
Eliot's own reactions to it--as is so intense in the material Rickard sent.
And it is also a response to the London life of his own experience.  These
are also not my own new notes, just what has been pointed to by others, but
the letter to the Nation is fascinating.
Interesting. In what way is it fascinating?

When I first visited London in the late 60s, having finished an MA on TWL,
and preparing
material for my doctorate at the British Meuseum, I visited the places
referenced in TWL.
I was very surprised (naively so perhaps) to discover the Royal Stock
(of course no longer being used in the late 60s) right at the centre of the
All the streets radiate from it. It was the magnate of the economy of the
British Empire, very
much a symbol of the deadening economic forces that it housed. I have always
a bit, why Eliot didn't use such a potent symbol of the syndrome he was
Maybe he did and I just missed it.