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W.B. Yeats was a member of the Society of the Golden Dawn.  He was initiated
in 1890.   Yeats was also a member of Blavatsky's Theosophical Society.
Both the Golden Dawn and Blavatsky influenced Ezra Pound.  Pound wrote
several articles for a Theosophical journal.

 

Richard Seddon

Portales, NM

 

From: T. S. Eliot Discussion forum. [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf
Of Peter Montgomery
Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 5:58 PM
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That's funny!

Williams was a member of The Society of the Golden Dawn.

I believe their charter borrowed heavilyt from The Rosie Crossers.

P.

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From: Diana Manister <mailto:[log in to unmask]>  

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Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 6:46 AM

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Peter, thanks for mentioning C. Williams; I was not familiar with All
Hollow's Eve but I found a chapter online that is intriguing -- apparently
the book is a favorite of the Rosicrucians! Diana


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Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 01:49:07 -0700
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Lewis was definitely a Romantic, which is probably why

he didn't like Eliot's work - the approach of the Classicist.

Eliot's conversion was definitely not one of feeling. Much more

like the absence of feeling -- the dark night. When they were

together in person they managed to get along, but apparently just barely.

 

Lewis was one of the founders of The Inkling drinking, Anglo-Saxon

translating club that gathered either in his rooms at Oxford or at

The Eagle and Child pub (lovingly known as the Bird and Baby).

The one member of that group who really liked Eliot was Charles Williams.

He wrote an appreciative review of some of Eliot's poetry, and Eliot wrote

a very appreciative intro to C.W.'s ALL HALLOW'S EVE. Eliot is also
a singular if unnamed presence in C.W.'s DESCENT INTO HELL.

 

BTW Owen Barfield's SAVING THE APPEARANCES tho small

is a book very challenging indeed.

 

I liked the Hippolytos ref. and also the idea of imagination

as an avenue to knowledge, in contradistinction to science.

 

Cheers,

P.

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From: Chokh Raj <mailto:[log in to unmask]>  

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Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 7:19 PM

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Most of us must, I presume, be aware of the uneasy equation

that obtained between the two literary giants of early twentieth century

-- TS Eliot and CS Lewis. You may like to learn, at some length, 

about the nature of this unhappy equation. There's a link below to an

article on it. To me, Lewis's bias against Eliot's poetry was an aspect 

of the contemporary response to his work. I can understand it. 

 

That, however, should not stand in the way of our enjoyment and

appreciation of this video feature on C.S. Lewis.

 

Here's a door that opens on the Absolute !  

 

 <http://hk.youtube.com/watch?v=ydyCqhzVZVE&feature=related> Image removed
by sender.

 <http://hk.youtube.com/watch?v=rLDEqbk-4RY> Image removed by sender.

 <http://hk.youtube.com/watch?v=ydyCqhzVZVE&feature=related> C.S. Lewis -
from atheism to theism 

09:59  <http://hk.youtube.com/user/EXPERIENCINGGOD> EXPERIENCINGGOD 

 

This is for you, Gunnar.

 

Regards,

 

CR

 

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C. S. Lewis on the very great evil of T. S. Eliots' work   [ ;-) ]

 

 <http://202.6.52.14/articles/16854.htm>
http://202.6.52.14/articles/16854.htm 

 

Opening paragraphs

 

This lecture is about two heroes of the intellectual conservative movement:
C. S. Lewis and T. S. Eliot. Many of you will be familiar with their works
and thought, and rightly assume that they both were influential spokesmen of
the same tradition. Russell Kirk in his essay on the history of conservative
thought which is at the centre of this conference, discusses Lewis as well
as Eliot, and states that the two of them hold common ground against the
advocates of what C. S. Lewis called 'the abolition of man' (The
Conservative Mind , p. 495).

 

Lewis and Eliot were contemporaries. Lewis lived from 1898-1963, Eliot from
1888-1965. They had at least four things in common: both came from outside
(Lewis from Ireland and Eliot from the United States), both were converts
(Eliot since 1927, Lewis since 1929), both had a second wife who played an
important role in their lives, and both were laymen who acquired a
reputation in England as conservative defenders of an orthodox religion.

'I agree with Eliot on matters of such great importance that all literary
questions are trivial in comparison,' wrote Lewis in A Preface to Paradise
Lost (1942).

 

These facts may make us think that Lewis and Eliot must have been close
friends. But their relationship was a highly uneasy one, as I wish to
demonstrate in this lecture. Their basic agreements were not enough to form
the basis for a smooth, lifelong friendship and cooperation. I intend to
describe their differences of opinion, and look for an answer as to what
exactly the cause of their disagreements and controversies was. As I will
have to go into a rather detailed examination of their utterances, I thought
it might be useful to provide you with a hand-out, which may make it more
easier to follow the line of my argument.

 

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