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Are you saying, in effect, that pretentious posturing
by use of critical jargon assists in the appreciation of the poems?

P.


Quoting Diana Manister <[log in to unmask]>:

> 
> Carrol wrote:
> "I've read the poems for 50 years without ever thinking of them as"imagist"
> or "vorticist" or any other "ist." What evidence is there thatattending to
> these abstractions would transform my reading?"
> Carrol,
>  
> If one is simply consuming poems then an awareness of various contemporaneous
> styles in relation to which the poet has positioned hinself aesthetically
> probably will not enhance the read. 
>  
> A writer however often finds it instructive to see what options were rejected
> or incorporated into a major poet's style and to try to get information as to
> why those options were chosen.
>  
> Further, comparing Pound and Eliot's ideas about poetry throws the aesthetic
> position of each into relief. Comparisons are not always odious. 
>  
> Diana
> > Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 11:45:16 -0600> From: [log in to unmask]> Subject: Re:
> War and Justice> To: [log in to unmask]> > Diana Manister wrote:> > > >
> Carrol, I am attempting to clarify how Pound spoke out of both sides> > of
> his mouth with regard to poetry. Imagine my surprise when his> > slogans were
> attributed to me!> > You were/are using them as a perspective on a number of
> poems; no one> suggested that you coined them.> > I've read the poems for 50
> years without ever thinking of them as> "imagist" or "vorticist" or any other
> "ist." What evidence is there that> attending to these abstractions would
> transform my reading?> > Pound then (and thereafter for the most part) was
> engaged in a number of> different "projects," (Cathay & Fenellosa, getting
> Frost & Eliot> published, thinking about Provencal poetry, getting married,
> worrying> about friends in the trenches, meeting new people, presumably
> already> deep in Propertius (the Homage to Sextus Propertius could hardly
> have> dropped from the sky overnight), and so forth. He threw up a lot of>
> phrases. They are interesting, and sometimes cast a pale light at least> on
> the poems, but I still fail to see how any of those phrases or labels> can
> really direct our understanding of the poems.> > I suspect he spoke out of a
> dozen sides of his mouth. He was a very> multi-tasking fellow. So?> > Carrol
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