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Ah!!!! The subconscious....
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Carrol Cox" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 3:54 PM
Subject: Re: Impact of Literature (Was Re: Test of Time)


> Diana Manister wrote:
> >
> > The many psychoanalytic institutes extant in NY City alone contradicts
> > your assertion Carrol. From where did you get this information? Diana
>
> Most therapists aren't MDs, hence not psychiatrists, hence not
> psychoanalysts. And fortunately the army of therapists in the u.s. (with
> ph.d.s in clincial psychology or Masters of Social Work) are protected
> from the silliness of psychoanalysis by the success of u.s.
> psychoanalysts 70 years ago in making it illegal for non-M.D.s to
> practice psychoanalysis. (There are of course innumberable other ways of
> being an incompetent or destructive therapist.)
>
> Freud invented the unconscious in the first place as an answer to a
> fundamental problem of neuroscience: where do memories go when we aren't
> consciously remembering them? Answer (good for the 1890s): They were
> "stored" in a "place" called The Unconscious. As Freud formulated it
> (and this remains a trace in all his thought and that of his successors)
> this was a bit of mechanical materialism, imbued with 19th-c positivist
> science. Beginning in the 1990s neuroscientists made substantial
> progress in explaining memory, and it is a bit of superstition to still
> hold on to such a crude concept as The Unconscious, a sort of warehouse
> where all sorts of goodies are hidden away.
>
> New York is I fear particularly infected with psychoanalysis, but on the
> whole it now lives only in departments of literature. That makes sense,
> in that psychoanalysis is essentially a form of literary criticism.
> Freud's book on dreams is a fine work of literature, but pretty hopeless
> as neuroscience.
>
> Carrol
>
>
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