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Indeed, but it still speaks to his involement with and in the issues
and life (he attended the music hall regularly) of the class , to which he
was accused of not relating.

As to Kate's remark about keeping the poor, poor -- I think Eliot
was intent, in fact, on trying to bring the values of the lower classes
up-stairs.
Part II of TWL shows the issue. The rich are at a psychic end, and
are even inarticulate about it. The pub folks know what they want,
what their problems are, what they might do about them, and they speak
their minds, for indeed they have minds to speak.

In fact Eliot's plays continue that theme, right to the end.

Cheers,
Peter
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rickard A Parker" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 7:56 AM
Subject: Re: "The Intellectuals and the Masses"


> Peter Montgomery wrote:
> >
> > Wonder if he ever read Eliot's essay, "Marie Lloyd"?
>
> In the essay Eliot says that the lower class had more vitality than
> the middle and upper classes but it looks as though he didn't have
> much hope of that continuing.  Here is the end of the London Letter
> version of the essay:
>
>    In a most interesting essay in the recent volume of Essays on the
>    Depopulation of Melanesia the great psychologist W. H. R. Rivers
>    adduces evidence which has led him to believe that the natives of that
>    unfortunate archipelago are dying out principally for the reason that
>    the "Civilization" forced upon them has deprived them of all interest
>    in life. They are dying from pure boredom. When every theatre has been
>    replaced by 100 cinemas, When every musical instrument has been
>    replaced by 100 gramaphones, when every horse has been replaced by 100
>    cheap motor cars, when electrical ingenuity has made it possible for
>    every child to hear its bed-time stories through a wireless receiver
>    attached to both ears, when applied science has done everything
>    possible with the materials on this earth to make life as interesting
>    as possible, it will not be surprising if the population of the entire
>    civilized world rapidly follows the fate of the Melanesians. You will
>    see that the death of Marie Lloyd has had a depressing effect, and
>    that I am quite incapable of taking any interest in any literary
>    events in England in the last two months, if any have taken place.
>
> Taken from
http://world.std.com/~raparker/exploring/tseliot/works/london-letters/london-letter-1922-12.html
>
> Regards,
>    Rick Parker
>
>
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