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You're welcome.
P.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Diana Manister 
  To: [log in to unmask] 
  Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 7:40 AM
  Subject: Re: Fearing death by water


  Why thank you Peter. I can always count on you! Diana

  Peter wrote: I think Diana is just trying to yank chains here again.
  Not worth taking seriously.
  P.
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: "Carrol Cox" <[log in to unmask]>
  To: <[log in to unmask]>
  Sent: Thursdaay, August 09, 2007 9:32 AM
  Subject: Re: Fearing death by water


  > Diana Manister wrote:
  > >
  > > Tom, if the body is seen as an impediment to salvation, its
  > > destruction is a good thing, right? This attitude exists within
  > > Christianity - from Aquinas maybe.
  >
  > You describe Manichaeism -- which Aquinas so hated that there is a
  > legend to the effect that once while an invited guest at a banquet put
  > on by Louis XI(?) he suddenly leaped up with the medieval equivalent of
  > Eureka and dashed out of the room to get down an idea he had just had
  > for the refutation of Manichaeism. Hatred of the body is heresy because
  > it casts doubt on the doctrine of the Incarnation and the Sacrament of
  > the Mass. Gnosticism had a similar hatred of the body.
  >
  > This is not to say there isn't a strong flavor of manichaeism in a lot
  > of Christian thought, but don't blame it on Aquinas. For Dante heaven is
  > only a sort of semi-heaven until the last judgment when the souls in
  > heaven will be reunited with their bodies, that union being essential
  > for true human bliss. (Incidentally, contrdicting modern Papist dogma,
  > Aquinas held that the fetus acquired a soul only with the second
  > trimester, hence he could have approved of abortion in the first
  > trimester.
  >
  > Carrol
  >
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