>>> Peter Montgomery <[log in to unmask]> 08/07/07 6:26 AM >>>
That could be contrasted to the Battle of Vimy Ridge, in
which my father, being Canadian, fought. Learning many lessons
from others earlier in the war, the Canadians were able to take the
with only some 3500 dead, 7000 wounded to the Germans' 20000
casulaties. It was one of the defining moments in Canadian nationhood.
Still, an enormous amount of blood shed for the entire contingent
of the forces of a small country.

Date: April 12, 1917.
April is the cruelest month.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Nancy Gish" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2007 2:59 PM
Subject: Re: Fearing death by water

> Over 8 million people died in WWI.  In Britain and the empire it was
> 947,000.  On July 1, the first day of the Battle of the Somme, the
> British had 57,470 casualties, of whom 19,240 were dead--in one day.
> they just stood up and walked into machine gun fire in rows and rows.
> N
> >>> Carrol Cox <[log in to unmask]> 08/05/07 5:37 PM >>>
> Diana Manister wrote:
> >
> > Peter, yes, but just about everything occasions fear in the poem.
> > much water, too little water, dust, rock, fire, women, a one-eyed
> > merchant, the urban environment, London's air, and on and on. Few
> > things besides hyacinths, fishermen, and churches are not fearsome.
> > When symbolism overlaps to this extent, it becomes redundant and
> > turgid. Diana
> Well, the outside world in 1920 was a pretty scary place for many
> (and a pretty grim place, also, for the friends & family of the [how
> many million?] dead in WW1. And it was also pretty a pretty scary
> 'inside' [the Eliot household] for TSE. (I will show you fear in a
> handful of dust.) Just what do you expect to find in a waste(d) land?
> Carrol
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