Bite me. D.

From: Peter Montgomery <[log in to unmask]>
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Subject: Re: Fearing death by water
Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2007 15:42:12 -0800

You're welcome.
P.
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From: [log in to unmask] href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">Diana Manister
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Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 7:40 AM
Subject: Re: Fearing death by water

Why thank you Peter. I can always count on you! Diana

Peter wrote: I think Diana is just trying to yank chains here again.
Not worth taking seriously.
P.
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From: "Carrol Cox" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Thursdaay, August 09, 2007 9:32 AM
Subject: Re: Fearing death by water


> Diana Manister wrote:
> >
> > Tom, if the body is seen as an impediment to salvation, its
> > destruction is a good thing, right? This attitude exists within
> > Christianity - from Aquinas maybe.
>
> You describe Manichaeism -- which Aquinas so hated that there is a
> legend to the effect that once while an invited guest at a banquet put
> on by Louis XI(?) he suddenly leaped up with the medieval equivalent of
> Eureka and dashed out of the room to get down an idea he had just had
> for the refutation of Manichaeism. Hatred of the body is heresy because
> it casts doubt on the doctrine of the Incarnation and the Sacrament of
> the Mass. Gnosticism had a similar hatred of the body.
>
> This is not to say there isn't a strong flavor of manichaeism in a lot
> of Christian thought, but don't blame it on Aquinas. For Dante heaven is
> only a sort of semi-heaven until the last judgment when the souls in
> heaven will be reunited with their bodies, that union being essential
> for true human bliss. (Incidentally, contrdicting modern Papist dogma,
> Aquinas held that the fetus acquired a soul only with the second
> trimester, hence he could have approved of abortion in the first
> trimester.
>
> Carrol
>
>
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