Barnwell, wonderful article. Many thanks. Although it was sent to Nancy, I printed and will study it.  Diana

From: Barnwell Black <[log in to unmask]>
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Subject: King Lear and TSE
Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2007 09:29:55 EDT

     The paper linked below presents an interesting discussion of King Lear's transformative journey relative to T.S. Eliot's from the Eliot of TWL to the Eliot of the 4Q. I think it's worth a print-out and a read. I like the optimistic perspective.
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In a message dated 8/1/2007 7:59:00 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [log in to unmask] writes:
I don't doubt that this passage shows Lear recovering his love for
Cordelia and realizing what he had done.  That is not a mystical
experience in the sense of St. John of the Cross or Julian or others.
There are very specific actions and experiences that are involved in the
"Dark Night."  Certainly Lear goes through a period of great terror
and--in his case--madness and recovers through love in some way.  But
the parallels are not the same as what a mystic reports.

I have not reread Lear recently, but it does not seem to be at all about
mystical experience to me.
I would also be surprised if Shakespear's use of gods and God were that
specific or limited to Lear.  Again, I would have to reread a great deal
to be sure about that.

>>> Barnwell  Black <[log in to unmask]> 08/01/07 7:17 PM >>>

I think there is an indication that King  Lear does indeed achieve some
degree of spiritual rebirth after the death of the  Self, as per TSE in
post-conversion poetry. 

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