At 10:30 PM 8/29/2007, you wrote: -- to >give some sense of the "texture" of Williams, which contrasts to the >take CR had on him. Whatever he was Williams was not remotely mystical >or detached. He was aggressively attached, to the extent of being vulgar >while speaking to professors. > >Carrol Of course, none of that gainsays CR's take on the poem he quoted. As frequently noted on this list, what a poet thinks he's doing and what he is doing need not be the same thing. Ken A.