----- Original Message -----From: [log in to unmask] href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">Barnwell BlackSent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 1:59 PMSubject: Re: Rewrite The Waste Land - Part IV -- "Redeeming Time"Folks,For an excellent and very moving discussion of T. S. Eliot's concept of "A life-giving death" -- the death of the Self followed by spiritual rebirth as per St. John of The Cross and Krishna-- and the other important wonderful components of the searchings of the "post conversion" Eliot, I recommend the book "Redeeming Time, T. S. Eliot's Four Quartets" by Kenneth Paul Kramer, Professor Emeritus of Comparative Religious Studies at San Jose State University. Eliot's ideas of "time and timelessness" are beautifully described and discussed by Professor Kramer. Although the primary subject of "Redeeming Time" is the "Four Quartets," the discussion is applicable to many of T. S. Eliot's poems.Thanks,BarnwellIn a message dated 7/26/2007 4:25:25 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [log in to unmask] writes:Yes, Diana. I'm in absolute agreement. A life-giving death --it's perhaps one of the most crucial burdens of Eliot's poetry.In my end is my beginning.What we call the beginning is often the end
And to make an end is to make a beginning.
The end is where we start from.(FQ)
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