From: Diana Manister Subject: Re: a Jeremiah sighting? I often think that Eliot was a premature post-modernist in the sense that he foregrounded the indeterminacy of meaning. The struggle to interpret his poems pits not only one reading against another, but also requires readers to question the conventions of interpretation. ====================================== I don't wish to take away from your point, which is thoughtful, and worthy of further commentary, but an alternate way of viewing the subject, given the fragility of the concept of post- modernism, is that the work of postmodernism was already achieved as a preface to modernism in the hands of people like the Vorticists (Wyndham Lewis, Pound, Eliot, &c.). The modernists, with the mythic method, created a platform for the future, which included the degredation of 19th century imagery into fragments, and the use of them along with new material for new structures and ideas. It was, de facto, pre-modernism -- a beginning, not an end. The transformation has to do with moving out of a static sense of space into a continuously transforming sense of time as the world speeds up on the endless rails of time future and time past, those endless rails being symbols of technology. Einstein's theories relating to the speed of light were no doubt inspiring in this matter. Cheers, P. Cheers, P.