Gunnar wrote: Flower clocks, oh man... beautiful example my ass. There is another one of those horrible flower clocks on Zurich's lake shore, THE epitome of kitsch, sponsored by our watch industry,... Visual pollution, that's what they are. For some peculiar reason, Americans seem to like 'em. ============================================================== O that's too bad, Gunnar. On this issue, you and I agree. In this city of gardens in which I live, I find those mechanical creepers quite repugnant. Must be really difficult to do a half decent flower clock. Diana's original dream clock sounds like an interesting approach. P.