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In a message dated 19/12/2006 21:51:13 GMT Standard Time, [log in to unmask]  
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G.S.  Fraser in his book, _Ezra Pound_ (Grove press, 1960), in responding
to one  of Pound's poems (Ballad of the Goodly Frere) told an anecdote
from his  childhood. He and his sister would regularly attend movies on
Saturdays,  and when the movie turned out to be so bad that one was
embarassed for the  actors, his sister would begin to chew the tips of
her gloves. Hence he and  she coined the term "glove-sucky" for poems,
movies, so bad that they were  embarassing. Eliot's poem to his wife is
indeed "glove-sucky"; it is  embarassingly bad. Admirers of Eliot can
only pretend that it didn't  happen.

Carrol



Methinks this illustrates that which I was attempting to say in the  original 
post: something like that one has to have been there / done that in  order 
completely to understand the concept / emotions. Just am glad that TSE  reached 
that stage/state in his earthly existence !
 
Regards David