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Ha, Carrol, thanks for the Harms' stories! A great
refreshment they are! :)

--- Carrol Cox <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> It seems to me that much recent list discussion of
> Eliot has erred
> greatly through considering his early poems through
> the lens provide by
> his late Christian work. I suggest the following two
> pieces better catch
> the general context in which so much early-20th
> century work flourished.
> Certainly Eliot's Preludes have more in common with
> Kharms than with any
> religion.
> 
> From Prufrock through TWL Eliot presents with a
> world without a center
> filled with personae without centers. That
> perspective _may_ be part of
> what later led him to fall into the arms of
> Christian superstition, but
> that had not happened yet when he wrote the early
> poems.
> 
> Carrol
> 
> Daniil Kharms? Early 20th Century Russian
> surrealist, jailed in
> Stalingrad during the preparation for the 
> coming invasion for being depressing, died in
> prison.
> 
> Blue notebook no. 2
> 
> Once there was a redheaded man without eyes and
> without ears. He had no
> hair either, so that he was a redhead was just
> something they said.
> 
> He could not speak, for he had no mouth. He had no
> nose either.
> 
> He didn't even have arms or legs. He had no stomach
> either, and he had
> no back, and he had no spine, and no intestines of
> any kind. He didn't
> have anything at all. So it is hard to understand
> whom we are really
> talking about.
> 
> So it is probably best not to talk about him any
> more.
> 
> --
> 
> 
> An amazing thing happened to me today, I suddenly
> forgot what comes
> first - 7 or 8.
> 
> I went to my neigbors and asked them about their
> opinion on this matter.
> 
> Great was their and my amazement, when they suddenly
> discovered, that
> they couldn't recall the counting order. They
> remembered 1, 2, 3, 4, 5
> and 6, but forgot what comes next.
> 
> We all went to a commercial grocery store, the one
> that's on the corner
> of Znamenskaya and Basseinaya streets to consult a
> cashier on our
> predicament. The cashier gave us a sad smile, took a
> small hammer out of
> her mouth, and moving her nose slightly back and
> forth, she said:
> 
> - In my opinion, a seven comes after an eight, only
> if an eight comes
> after a seven.
> 
> We thanked the cashier and ran cheerfully out of the
> store. But there,
> thinking carefully about cashier's words, we got sad
> again because her
> words were void of any meaning.
> 
> What were we supposed to do? We went to the Summer
> Garden and started
> counting trees. But reaching a six in count, we
> stopped and started
> arguing: In the opinion of some, a 7 went next; but
> in opinion of others
> an 8 did.
> 
> We were arguing for a long time, when by some sheer
> luck, a child fell
> off a bench and broke both of his jaws. That
> distracted us from our
> argument.
> 
> And then we all went home.
> 
> -----
> 


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