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Ha, Carrol, thanks for the Harms' stories! A great refreshment they are! :) --- Carrol Cox <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > It seems to me that much recent list discussion of > Eliot has erred > greatly through considering his early poems through > the lens provide by > his late Christian work. I suggest the following two > pieces better catch > the general context in which so much early-20th > century work flourished. > Certainly Eliot's Preludes have more in common with > Kharms than with any > religion. > > From Prufrock through TWL Eliot presents with a > world without a center > filled with personae without centers. That > perspective _may_ be part of > what later led him to fall into the arms of > Christian superstition, but > that had not happened yet when he wrote the early > poems. > > Carrol > > Daniil Kharms? Early 20th Century Russian > surrealist, jailed in > Stalingrad during the preparation for the > coming invasion for being depressing, died in > prison. > > Blue notebook no. 2 > > Once there was a redheaded man without eyes and > without ears. He had no > hair either, so that he was a redhead was just > something they said. > > He could not speak, for he had no mouth. He had no > nose either. > > He didn't even have arms or legs. He had no stomach > either, and he had > no back, and he had no spine, and no intestines of > any kind. He didn't > have anything at all. So it is hard to understand > whom we are really > talking about. > > So it is probably best not to talk about him any > more. > > -- > > > An amazing thing happened to me today, I suddenly > forgot what comes > first - 7 or 8. > > I went to my neigbors and asked them about their > opinion on this matter. > > Great was their and my amazement, when they suddenly > discovered, that > they couldn't recall the counting order. They > remembered 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 > and 6, but forgot what comes next. > > We all went to a commercial grocery store, the one > that's on the corner > of Znamenskaya and Basseinaya streets to consult a > cashier on our > predicament. The cashier gave us a sad smile, took a > small hammer out of > her mouth, and moving her nose slightly back and > forth, she said: > > - In my opinion, a seven comes after an eight, only > if an eight comes > after a seven. > > We thanked the cashier and ran cheerfully out of the > store. But there, > thinking carefully about cashier's words, we got sad > again because her > words were void of any meaning. > > What were we supposed to do? We went to the Summer > Garden and started > counting trees. But reaching a six in count, we > stopped and started > arguing: In the opinion of some, a 7 went next; but > in opinion of others > an 8 did. > > We were arguing for a long time, when by some sheer > luck, a child fell > off a bench and broke both of his jaws. That > distracted us from our > argument. > > And then we all went home. > > ----- > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com