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Dear Mobirders, I deeply regret that my comments regarding CACHE in the St. Louis area were construed as "such a public rebuke." 1. No malice toward anyone was intended. I bear no ill will toward Charlene and did not criticize her in any way. 2. I used the words "uncharacteristically lackluster" about the area's participation in CACHE. If that is browbeating, I need a new dictionary. What was intended (and I hope conveyed to anyone who read it without bias) was encouragement to look at the CACHE site, contribute to the data, and be a part of something worthwhile. Edge Wade Columbia, MO [log in to unmask] On Jun 4, 2006, at 5:22 PM, Charlene and Jim Malone wrote: > Somehow I don't see how an honest reply to a request from your > household for > possible additions to the Cache system merits such a public rebuke. > If St. Louis > birders add their sightings to the Cache, great! If they don't, it > is not your place > to brow beat them. > > By the way, this response is mine alone and not meant to speak for > Charlene > Malone. Thanks for your indulgence, this is the last I will post on > this topic. > > Jim Malone > Ballwin, MO > St. Louis County > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Edge" <[log in to unmask]> > To: <[log in to unmask]> > Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 10:55 AM > Subject: Re: CACHE nominations in St. L > > >> Charlene states (to St. Louis area birders), "Didn't think there >> were any areas that would need a checklist..." >> >> Of course most/all large conservation areas in the St. Louis area >> have checklists. BUT, the question becomes, when were they >> developed and how current (therefore, useful) are they? >> >> One of the strong points and raison d'etre for CACHE is that the >> checklists generated thereon are DYNAMIC. That is, they are up- >> to- date and evolving. We all know that whatever the cause, bird >> populations/ranges are changing. What was common or rare at, >> say, Busch CA in 1995 may not be so today. >> >> To date, only 13 people have submitted bird sightings for Busch >> C.A., and 3 of them are Columbia birders! The response of St. >> Louis birders for this and other St. Louis area sites is >> uncharacteristically lackluster. >> >> Carlene concludes with, "Or maybe, a separate checklist for the >> Weldon Springs CA in St. Charles co......??" >> >> Hey, folks there is already a checklist for Weldon Springs on >> CACHE! And, sadly, it reflects the same number/ratio of input as >> for Busch. >> >> Only with input from birders can CACHE reach its potential and >> deliver the best products: current, dynamic checklists. Your >> input is important; you can make a difference--but only if you >> take the time to enter your sightings or send/give your list to >> someone who will do it for you. >> >> At least look at the CACHE site on the MOBIRDS ASM website and get >> an idea of what a valuable tool this can be. If you have problems >> navigating the site, email Patrick Harrison. He'll guide you >> through it. If I can do it, anybody can! >> >> Edge Wade >> Columbia, MO >> [log in to unmask] >> >> >> On Jun 1, 2006, at 7:50 PM, Charlene and Jim Malone wrote: >> >>> St. Louis birders, >>> Didn't think there were any areas that would need a checklist, >>> but while birding Columbia Bottoms (St. L co) it dawned on me, >>> that yes there is.. COLUMBIA BOTTOMS CA.......DUH >>> Very good birds have been seen here. >>> It is under birded despite it's close location to the St. Louis >>> area, so maybe an incentive to get birders out there to find >>> even more good birds. >>> Think it would be a very good migrant trap. >>> >>> Or maybe, a separate checklist for the Weldon Springs CA in St. >>> Charles co......?? >>> Or would that be redundant? >>> >>> Just throwing out ideas. >>> >>> Back to the cave. >>> >>> Charlene Malone >>> St. Louis co. >>> >>> __________________________________________________ >>> ########################################################### >>> * Audubon Society of Missouri's * >>> * Wild Bird Discussion Forum * >>> *---------------------------------------------------------* >>> * To subscribe or unsubscribe, click here: * >>> * https://po.missouri.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mobirds-l&A=1 * >>> *---------------------------------------------------------* >>> * To access the list archives, click here: * >>> * http://po.missouri.edu/archives/mobirds-l.html * >>> * * >>> * To access the Audubon Society of Missouri Web * >>> * Site: http://mobirds.org * >>> ########################################################### >> >> __________________________________________________ >> ########################################################### >> * Audubon Society of Missouri's * >> * Wild Bird Discussion Forum * >> *---------------------------------------------------------* >> * To subscribe or unsubscribe, click here: * >> * https://po.missouri.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mobirds-l&A=1 * >> *---------------------------------------------------------* >> * To access the list archives, click here: * >> * http://po.missouri.edu/archives/mobirds-l.html * >> * * >> * To access the Audubon Society of Missouri Web * >> * Site: http://mobirds.org * >> ########################################################### __________________________________________________ ########################################################### * Audubon Society of Missouri's * * Wild Bird Discussion Forum * *---------------------------------------------------------* * To subscribe or unsubscribe, click here: * * https://po.missouri.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mobirds-l&A=1 * *---------------------------------------------------------* * To access the list archives, click here: * * http://po.missouri.edu/archives/mobirds-l.html * * * * To access the Audubon Society of Missouri Web * * Site: http://mobirds.org * ###########################################################