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Before ipods, privately burned CDs were (and still are) played on portable 
units.
One can remove the intro and make the length of song however long one 
wishes.

Charlene Malone
St. Louis co.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Patrick Harrison" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 8:30 AM
Subject: Re: alternative to ipod nano's ???


> Jack and mobirds-l,
>
> There are cheaper options, but each has its own set of caveats.
>
> Once can create a cassette tape of individual songs or groups of songs and
> use that in the field. This is the cheapest option I know of. Downside:
> tapes don't last long (not very durable), you have to fast forward or 
> rewind
> to find the song you want, takes time to MAKE the tape and unless you 
> record
> all songs, you run the risk of "needing" a song you don't have available
> when in the field.
>
> There are some devices on the market that are much less expensive than an
> I-Pod or a Palm that come preloaded with some bird sounds. I have no
> experience with these. I believe Edge Wade used one for a brief period of
> time in California. To my knowledge, the device didn't make it back to
> Missouri!?
>
> This leaves you with the two more expensive options that have been 
> discussed
> here in the past. I'm curious as to your comment about "works better than
> the I-Pod". What issues have you experienced with an I-Pod that make you
> feel there is something better? The individuals that have an I-Pod / 
> BirdPod
> device have told me that it takes some getting use to with regard to
> manipulating the device to find the bird song. The device is small and the
> screen // buttons are small too. An additional issue some have expressed 
> to
> me is the need to recharge the Pod after about FOUR hours of use?! Did you
> experience this too? Lastly, the speaker that is recommended by BirdBod to
> accompany the device is excellent at rendering all the songs clearly. One
> trade off is that the speaker isn't as loud as the self-amplified speaker 
> I
> use with my Palm, which I believe does ALMOST as good a job rendering the
> songs.
>
> To be clear on this: Great-horned Owl and Black-and-white Warbler and two 
> of
> the most difficult calls for small speakers to handle. The recommended
> speaker (by BirdPod folks) does a slightly better job of playing these 
> songs
> than does my self-amplified speaker from RadioShack. On ALL other songs, 
> it
> does an equal job and at a higher volume...
>
> **There are probably other ways of doing sounds in the field using other
> types of equipment / devices. I hope to hear about them via this 
> listserve.
>
> Hope this has helped and look forward to your reply.
>
> Patrick
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: MO Wild Bird Forum [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
> jack hilsabeck
> Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 2:34 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: alternative to ipod nano's ???
>
> Does anyone have an alternative MP3 player that would work instead of an
> ipod nano for playing bird songs in the field???  I am trying to find one
> that is either cheaper or works better than the birdpod.  Hopefully both.
> Any help would certainly be appreciated.
>
> Later,
>
> Jack Hilsabeck
> St. Joseph, MO (Buchanan county)
> [log in to unmask]
>

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