I have seen neither, and find only the later one available
at my video store.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Dunja Seselja 
  To: [log in to unmask] 
  Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 7:46 AM
  Subject: Re: Till Human Voices Wake Us

  Seems I've replied to a wrong email a moment ago... sorry! So right, my previous mail referred to this - as I didn't know there were two versions of this movie. Have you seen the older one?

  Peter Montgomery <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
    I assume you are talking about the 2002 "Till Human Voices Wake Us"

    as opposed to the 1996 "Till Human Voices Wake Us and We Drown"
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Dunja Seselja 
      To: [log in to unmask] 
      Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2006 7:12 PM
      Subject: Till Human Voices Wake Us

      When talking about films... what do people here think of "Till Human Voices Wake Us", made after Eliot's "Love Song of A.J. Prufrock"?
      For me the film is amazing once we take the poem into account (without it, it can be seen as more or less usual love story, seen during or after dinner). All of the reviews I've read on the Internet are so disappointing - they either completely fly over the fact that the film has a direct link to the poem, or they see it as an unsuccessful "description" of the poem. But the film is neither of these. As a matter of fact, it succeeds in capturing some of the crucial moments of the poem (time and finiteness - in their metaphysical sense) tracing them down to the ground, and still leaving them out of reach. The story itself might be simple, but once we consider all those motives of The Love Song and see their place in the story, it receives a completely new dimension. 


      Nancy Gish <[log in to unmask]> wrote: 
        Both are great films. But if you want romantic, see Brokeback Mountain.
        (Mountains are in it, but they are not the main topic.) Neither is
        comedy. Neither is violent. Both are thoughtful.

        >>> [log in to unmask] 04/09/06 9:28 PM >>>

        I called my husband on the cell phone yesterday while out during the day
        asked what he wanted to do during the evening, as we had no plans. He 
        that he already took care of that, that he had went to the video store
        took out the new Pride and Prejudice that had just come out on video
        that I had 
        been longing to see. Well, it was very sweet of my husband, but it was
        extremely poor, pathetic adaptation, and I can't believe that it had
        nominated for Academy Awards. The one before this one, I really loved,
        the one 
        before that was great also, and the book best of all, but this film was
        awful. And, this is truth, and not politics. My husband asked me today
        I wanted to see the next time he was at the video store, and I couldn't
        up my mind between Good Night and Good Luck and that mountain film,
        Mountain, I think it's called. Anyone have any great suggestion,
        keeping in 
        mind that I like thoughtful(but not violent) and that I like
        well done), and comedy only when extremely well done.



        In a message dated 4/9/2006 5:55:13 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
        [log in to unmask] writes:

        Dear Gunnar,

        How wonderfully 17th C politically correct you are. How comfortable to

        choose what is nice and ignore all the reasons others are offended. 
        soothingly normal to remain the norm and to be in the category of the
        those whose 
        politics are truth and not politics.

        How politic to be so political in so ancient a way.

        As for das Ewigweibliche, for god's sake, read deBeauvoir (no need to
        anything too new) and notice some changes in that politically correct 
        definition of all non-male humanity. Nothing has been more politically
        correct in 
        all of history as the political definition of women as not the
        "inclusive" and 
        men as the norm of humanity. 

        I am astonished that you care so much about all other groups who have
        historically excluded, and now you champion militant masculinism and
        resort to 
        such absurd ostensible reasons, or rather personal assertions.

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