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Sex has been so commodified , so used to sell everything from lipstick to
aircraft carriers, that I find it hard to associate with eroticism.
P.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dunja Seselja" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 3:37 AM
Subject: Re: OT: Too much of a good thing....


> --- Peter Montgomery <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> 
> > Or it is merely what Tiresias forsuffers on the
> > divan or bed.
> > Take out, fast food, fast animal function.
> 
> Well, why would sex that doesn't include love (between
> partners) be fast? Maybe we have a disagreement about
> the terms sex and love, don't know... so that your
> notion of sex is reduced to the pure "in and out"
> while the rest of sexual activities would be love
> making. I use the term love making to speak of the
> sexual/erotic performance between the partners, but
> not between, for example, friends or people who have
> just met and fell in lust. I admit it is hard to make
> the borderline between these terms, I guess they fall
> under the specific family similarity.
> 
> D.
> 
> > Dare I ask how a humanised form of having sex would
> > differ from love making, other than in the bodily
> > functioning
> > connotations of the word sex.  As Alex puts it in A
> > CLOCK-
> > WORK ORANGE, .a little bit of the old in-out-in-out?
> > 
> > p.
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Dunja Seselja" <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 2:36 AM
> > Subject: Re: OT: Too much of a good thing....
> > 
> > 
> > > Hmmmmm, I am not sure we can so easily use the
> > concept
> > > of "dehumanization" in this context either... It
> > can
> > > easily lead to a misunderstanding of taboos, i.e.
> > of
> > > breaking with them. Maybe it's exactly the other
> > way
> > > around: distinguishing sex from love is a way of
> > > "humanizing" and "cultivating" sexuality (where
> > > "humanization" and "cultivation" are understood as
> > > notions rooted in rational dealing with our life
> > and
> > > culture), so that one is not trapped by Hume's
> > > naturalistic fallacy.
> > > 
> > > D.
> > > 
> > > --- Peter Montgomery <[log in to unmask]>
> > wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Suggests a dehumanisation of a VERY human thing.
> > > > Have a coke? Have sex?
> > > > 
> > > > P.
> > > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > > From: "Dunja Seselja" <[log in to unmask]>
> > > > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > > > Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 4:56 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: OT: Too much of a good thing....
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > > Peter asked:
> > > > > >  
> > > > > > "Can one go too far in love making?"
> > > > > >  
> > > > > > "Or to use the modern, mindless consumer
> > lingo:
> > > > > > Can one have too much sex?"
> > > > > 
> > > > > Why is this an example of "the mindless
> > consumer
> > > > > lingo"? What does a distinction between love
> > and
> > > > sex
> > > > > have to do with consumerism? And why would it
> > be
> > > > > mindless?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Dunja
> > > > > 
> > > > >
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